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[http://ia700808.us.archive.org/26/items/gov.uscourts.cand.248875/gov.uscourts.cand.248875.14.0.pdf This PDF] explains how Universal Music Group uses the Copyrobeast. --[[User:Tepples|Tepples]] 10:12, 16 December 2011 (MST)
 
[http://ia700808.us.archive.org/26/items/gov.uscourts.cand.248875/gov.uscourts.cand.248875.14.0.pdf This PDF] explains how Universal Music Group uses the Copyrobeast. --[[User:Tepples|Tepples]] 10:12, 16 December 2011 (MST)
 
:Ok, thanks for the good info; preparing response. (No, I haven't been compromised by a spambot.) [[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] 11:02, 16 December 2011 (MST)
 
:Ok, thanks for the good info; preparing response. (No, I haven't been compromised by a spambot.) [[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] 11:02, 16 December 2011 (MST)
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::[This response is not quite finished; please hold your replies until I have removed this notice.] I see two main points here: 1) The party with more money tends to get its way in the court system, as you have mentioned at <nowiki>[[Mini-rant archive#FIXME]]</nowiki>, and 2) any automated content-identification system will have false positives, which could intrude upon [[wikipedia:fair use|fair use]] and/or [[wikipedia:de minimis|de minimis]] uses<!-- especially if Content ID finds three strikes and bans the user before xe has a chance to plead xyr case. The risk is especially great since YouTube bans often lead to a full suspension of the associated Google Account-->.
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::So what does all this have to do with Magibon?<!-- This is a "rhetorical question"; I do not need an answer from you. --> In the majority of Magibon's videos, there is nothing copyrightable<!-- under US law --> (though future lawyers, and future versions of Content ID, might disagree about [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVjZVxhrlVk this video in which she plays ''Brain Age'']<!-- an example of de minimis; the DS's screen is generally not shown, but its audio output is audible; I will reword this -->). Hence Magibon is less vulnerable to copyright punishment than the average YouTube user. However, we generally agree that Content ID is growing ever more aggressive as more copyright holders submit their works. Thus I am using Magibon as a (benchmark|canary|''etc.''): if she gets banhammered (i.e. "defeated by the Copyrobeast") then we're really all doomed. [[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] 11:58, 18 December 2011 (MST)

Revision as of 18:58, 18 December 2011

An apology

Since I keep forgetting to work it into my edit summaries, I'll put it here: Sorry for using "IP" as an abbreviation for "intellectual property" in this edit summary. I thought about saying "Takashi Murakami franchise" or "property," but those choices sounded awkward. Eighty5cacao 18:12, 15 November 2010 (MST)

Mmm, what we say !!

Is "Jigga Jigga" by Scooter more of an AYBABTU reference than the "Whatcha say" in "Hide and Seek" by Imogen Heap (the Dear Sister song)? Really? --Tepples 06:50, 20 December 2010 (MST)

The music video for "Jigga Jigga!" uses footage of a Scooter concert in Japan, and the rest of it plays along with the Japanese theme[1]. Does "Hide and Seek" similarly reference anything Japanese?
I stand corrected to the extent that I am probably misrepresenting Scooter's intentions, but then again this is Wild Mass Guessing... Eighty5cacao 10:36, 20 December 2010 (MST)

The Time Machine (2002 film)

My web site has gone through several eras: Tripod era, Webjump era, Freeservers era (pineight.8m.com), EvilPigeon era (hosted by various companies that Josh Kearney worked for, after which I ended up on Go Daddy), and finally the current openpage2007 era. The branding changed from Wasted Collection to Cooper Black at the start of the EvilPigeon era. Incidentally, bits and pieces of the Freeservers era site are still up as of the last day of 2010, such as the mascot page.

The similarity of names is a coincidence. Colin appeared in TOD for PC (released in the fourth quarter of 2000), his face was behind the logo of the Freeservers era site, and his name was set around the time of Who's Cuter. --Tepples 15:10, 31 December 2010 (MST)

Ok, I have reverted the relevant part of my edit. I still don't see how this totally excludes the possibility of cryptomnesia (though the film writers are unlikely to have been familiar with your website). The pre-Freeservers versions don't show up in a Wayback Machine query for www.pineight.com; with what domain name should I have made my query?
Should I have raised this issue on some other talk page first, perhaps your user talk? Eighty5cacao 17:08, 2 January 2011 (MST) (last edit 17:29, 2 January 2011 (MST))
The domain pineight.com began with the Freeservers era. People have already dug up archived versions of the Freeservers version of the NES page and used them to call me a ROM pirate. There's even more old shame in pre-Freeservers versions, such as a version of the mascot page that got me a cease-and-desist from a representative of the owner of copyright in some cartoon characters. --Tepples 21:18, 2 January 2011 (MST)

It's that "Luka" chick

Some WOG to add to your hypothesis: Suzanne Vega on "Luka" --Tepples 05:43, 5 January 2011 (MST)

Ok, I will read over that. Could you remind me what WOG means? I admit I may have been misusing the term Wild Mass Guessing a bit, as I was starting to construct a fictional universe around the album rather than merely speculating on the motives behind its development. I had already read elsewhere about the stories beind "Luka" and "Tom's Diner," and I am aware that there is no real-world connection between the contents of the two songs.
BTW, I have some notes on another "'Luka' chick" here and here (not quite related, and it would belong better in Fictional characters that look alike). Eighty5cacao 19:10, 5 January 2011 (MST)
Word Of God is official comments that in some cases may debunk a fan explanation. But what you have there appears to be a sketch of a musical based on the songs of Suzanne Vega, and this alone might still have merit. It's just as WMG as a lot of the Grand Unifying Guesses that show up in and around that namespace on TV Tropes. I seem to remember some musical comedy that was written as a vehicle to plug a music publisher's unused songs. --Tepples 21:25, 5 January 2011 (MST)

Slashdot and Mathematica

According to Mathematica, Slashdot (/.) "applies a rule or list of rules in an attempt to transform..." nerd-related news into rather lengthy and often factually inaccurate or misquoted discussions that may deviate into the most unrelated of subjects; Mathematica also claims Slashdot aims to replace all other sources of nerdy news. Pedantry is one of the most frequently-used transformative rules; indirect self-reference is one much more infrequently used. --Btm pdx 16:42, 11 January 2011 (MST)

Ok, thanks. I will make a note of this on the page. Eighty5cacao 17:04, 11 January 2011 (MST)
On second thought: That is probably good material for Uncyclopedia, but I'm not sure whether it's really in the spirit of Wild Mass Guessing (which would probably involve hypothesizing a conspiracy theory that links Slashdot and Mathematica). Eighty5cacao 00:06, 12 January 2011 (MST)
I have copied your explanation to uncyc:User:Pentium5dot1/UN:REQ explanations/Slashdot and Mathematica. (No incoming wikilinks from the uncyc:Uncyclopedia:Requested Articles page yet) Eighty5cacao 14:19, 16 January 2011 (MST)

UMG court filing exposes the Copyrobeast

This PDF explains how Universal Music Group uses the Copyrobeast. --Tepples 10:12, 16 December 2011 (MST)

Ok, thanks for the good info; preparing response. (No, I haven't been compromised by a spambot.) Eighty5cacao 11:02, 16 December 2011 (MST)
[This response is not quite finished; please hold your replies until I have removed this notice.] I see two main points here: 1) The party with more money tends to get its way in the court system, as you have mentioned at [[Mini-rant archive#FIXME]], and 2) any automated content-identification system will have false positives, which could intrude upon fair use and/or de minimis uses.
So what does all this have to do with Magibon? In the majority of Magibon's videos, there is nothing copyrightable (though future lawyers, and future versions of Content ID, might disagree about this video in which she plays Brain Age). Hence Magibon is less vulnerable to copyright punishment than the average YouTube user. However, we generally agree that Content ID is growing ever more aggressive as more copyright holders submit their works. Thus I am using Magibon as a (benchmark|canary|etc.): if she gets banhammered (i.e. "defeated by the Copyrobeast") then we're really all doomed. Eighty5cacao 11:58, 18 December 2011 (MST)