User talk:eighty5cacao/misc/WMG dump/Umihara Kawase

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Enjoy Koch-a-Cola[edit]

"Call me a converted skeptic." Even a study partly funded by the Koch brothers concludes that anthropogenic global warming is real. How would this figure in if at all? --Tepples 14:16, 29 July 2012 (MST)

The propaganda team's spin would be that global warming is not serious enough to warrant large-scale geoengineering. They are not denying the existence of anthropogenic global warming, only its severity and preventability.
I tried to express this with the wording "global warming is not a serious problem" in the Fox News link. I'll clarify the wording elsewhere. Eighty5cacao 20:50, 30 July 2012 (MST) (last edit 21:59, 16 September 2012 (MST))
The next TODO is to figure out what the propaganda team would say about global warming's impact on biodiversity. If phase 2 were underway, they might claim that the aquatic humanoids are needed to help with undersea studies ... but this is mainly about phase 1, where they'd want a better excuse than "we can't help global warming because it's a feedback spiral (i.e., a vicious cycle)." --Eighty5cacao 22:15, 20 October 2012 (MST)
They'd probably cherry-pick a few species that would benefit from a rise in temperature, such as by habitat expansion. Bonus points if this includes a commercially-significant plant or livestock species. Details to come later. --Eighty5cacao (talk) 13:03, 18 February 2013 (CST) (+ 00:05, 12 September 2013 (UTC))

Just brain-dumping a Daily Mail article, "Why I think we're wasting billions on global warming, by top British climate scientist" --Eighty5cacao (talk) 00:08, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

May you have an interesting life[edit]

I thought of this tangentially-related xkcd strip (explicit language). Wikipedia states that the catchphrase is sometimes worded as "May you live in interesting times" and that "interesting" often refers to scrutiny from government agencies. Eighty5cacao 11:52, 11 October 2012 (MST) (last edit 13:59, 29 January 2013 (CST))

Time machine[edit]

The 3DS game shows that some form of time manipulation exists in this universe, though it's unknown whether this universe's physical constants allow the practical construction of a personal-sized time machine similar to that in the H. G. Wells novel or its film adaptations.

TODO: How might the propaganda team use TTM as a talking point? ("Evolution is too important to be left to chance. Let us take control...") --Eighty5cacao (talk) 16:36, 8 May 2013 (UTC) (last edit 18:41, 25 May 2013 (UTC))

Aquatic ape hypothesis[edit]

TODO: Figure out how the propaganda team would mention this. My guess is that some might admit the non-acceptance of the hypothesis in its present form, but they would claim that humans would be able to adapt better than other primates if a catastrophe forced them to become aquatic, and their genetic-engineering program is capitalizing upon those traits. --Eighty5cacao (talk) 18:46, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

I originally posted this LiveScience article on swimming behavior in chimps as a TTM issue, but it probably belongs better here. --Eighty5cacao (talk) 06:36, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

Water quality[edit]

A commenter on the Selkie webcomic pointed out that global warming decreases the ocean's capacity for dissolved oxygen. Combined with acidification, this means that the relevant amphibious lifeforms would rather leave the water than enter it.

In my WMG, that would become a problem once the aquatic humanoids gain some ability for gas exchange through the skin and/or via gills.

In my defense, the bad guys don't realize what is bad about their plan; they haven't thought it out beyond the necessity to close and demolish factories threatened by the sea-level rise. --Eighty5cacao (talk) 04:54, 22 June 2013 (UTC) (+ 08:15, 5 May 2014 (UTC))


If I tried asking Heisanevilgenius to cover this franchise in the "Weird Video Games" series, he'd probably say it's not weird enough... To be fair, Momoko 120% probably has more unfortunate implications IMO. (TODO: develop this idea) --Eighty5cacao (talk) 04:25, 19 September 2013 (UTC) (+ 15:24, 21 October 2013 (UTC)) (wayback machine: 04:23, 16 January 2018 (UTC))

The Jaleco connection[edit]

(No, not City Connection, though I wonder what exactly "traveling" implies.)

Regarding this second-order fanon, the frog-like "Mutant" enemies from The Peace Keepers (Rushing Beat Shura) look like they could be another milestone in the evil plan. The Deutschland Moldavia (Douglas Motor) corporation in The Peace Keepers is involved with biotechnology, and these particular mutants reached their present form after a lab explosion released some chemicals. (I'd go with the compromise "Douglas Moldavia" as a guess for the evil organization's "real" name.) --Eighty5cacao (talk) 05:09, 19 September 2013 (UTC) (+ 07:49, 1 October 2013 (UTC))

To clarify, I have more ideas about unifying several Jaleco franchises that I haven't written down yet due partly to their shaky support in canonical material. (I already mentioned Avenging Spirit in a couple places on that page.) --Eighty5cacao (talk) 23:49, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

Some Word of God[edit]

Moved to "Behind-the-scenes info: Development" box in "Out-of-universe" section on the content page; last edit originally made to this section was 04:07, 5 October 2013 (UTC) --Eighty5cacao (talk) 02:42, 29 June 2014 (UTC)


Aquaticizing humanity through genetic engineering: Where have I seen this before? --Tepples (talk) 20:51, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

Acknowledged. No response yet regarding the actual content of the WMG. If you were thinking about copyright: I currently have no plans to publicize this idea outside Pin Eight in any way, and I had not heard of the Petaybee Series prior to now.
For what it's worth, the point of this big mess was a guess that humanity might briefly experiment with genetic engineering for a similar purpose in the TTM timeline, leaving some remnants of those genes in the Eloi. --Eighty5cacao (talk) 22:32, 17 October 2013 (UTC) (+ 18:50, 21 October 2013 (UTC))
Then I guess we're safe copyright-wise, as I haven't read anything by Ms. McCaffrey. My only acquaintance with Petaybee is after seeing "selkie" in a TV Tropes session. What I don't read... But it's still here in case you feel like branching out into a grand unifying guess. --Tepples (talk) 23:35, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
I guess I forgot that "grand unifying guess" is the official TV Tropes term for the kind of "second-order fanon" I have here. Upon reading the TV Tropes article more closely: I'd be willing to say that in my WMG, genetic-engineering technology of extraterrestrial origin exists, but the aliens would cease to license their technology once they hear about the humans' whole plan, forcing the humans to redevelop it. (The conflict has nothing to do with Earth's natural resources or lack thereof.) --Eighty5cacao (talk) 23:45, 17 October 2013 (UTC) (+ 15:19, 21 October 2013 (UTC))

Administrative digression: Strictly speaking, the tropes wikis use "grand unifying guess" to mean that a crossover involves three or more works or franchises or that it connects the entirety of one work or franchise with another via characters or setting. My definition of "second-order fanon" is broader, referring to any interconnection between works. (This justifies the strikethrough here.) --Eighty5cacao (talk) 20:42, 3 June 2017 (UTC) (+ 04:01, 6 June 2017 (UTC))

Global warming link dump[edit]

Climate change denial arguments[edit]

TODO: Look over 10 Failed Climate Change Denial Arguments (Slate, citing YouTube) --Eighty5cacao (talk) 02:20, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

Evidence for sea level rise[edit]

The Nations Guaranteed to Be Swallowed by The Sea - Vice Motherboard --Eighty5cacao (talk) 19:10, 28 May 2014 (UTC) (+ 22:38, 15 January 2016 (UTC))

US scientists: Global warming pause 'no longer valid' - BBC News (not strictly about sea level though) --Eighty5cacao (talk) 18:58, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

Opposition to geoengineering[edit]

5 Real Climate Changing Devices That'll Clearly Doom Us All - Cracked --Eighty5cacao (talk) 18:07, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

Simulation vs. live-fire exercise[edit]

On another WMG, I removed DonPachi as an example of a training simulation after having the reveal spoiled on another forum.

Think about how that is relevant for this WMG. It is possible that the purpose of the training is not as clear as one might initially guess. I'd have to work out more details though. --Eighty5cacao (talk) 06:21, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Streemerz 2[edit]

It appears that at one point, Arthur "Mr. Podunkian" Lee had STREEMERZ 2 in development, but it never progressed sufficiently to be mentioned on his website. The protagonist's weapon was to have been called a "fishing hook" (though it supported casting in multiple directions, it still had no better than Bionic Commando physics); a (human) enemy character was named in part "Poisson." --Eighty5cacao (talk) 03:13, 31 December 2013 (UTC) (+ 04:04, 31 December 2013 (UTC))

Correction: The game was technically finished as part of the Indie Kombat competition, but the competition's official website seems parked or otherwise broken; compare / with the page for the specific game. A mirror appears to exist on CNET Download though. This game was never intended to be a serious full-length project like the original STREEMERZ. --Eighty5cacao (talk) 06:03, 24 April 2014 (UTC)


A bit more fuel for the simulation hypothesis:

On a YouTube copy of a speedrun of the DS port of the original game, someone complained that the game looked "unfinished." Presumably they were complaining about the abrupt ending, just as ZetaPlays did. --Eighty5cacao (talk) 06:38, 29 January 2014 (UTC)


Might Cracked's #16 insane but convincing fan theory be relevant? Fans claim Bikini Bottom is populated by sapient sea creatures that are the result of nuclear tests performed by the United States in the mid-1940s. --Tepples (talk) 20:26, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

I'd prefer to avoid the overdone nuclear-testing trope and instead depict the effects of ionizing radiation accurately, which is why I haven't mentioned any such thing. I can't rule out some other aspect of the SpongeBob universe being relevant, though. --Eighty5cacao (talk) 19:08, 6 May 2014 (UTC) (+ 02:46, 29 June 2014 (UTC))

Relations to other games[edit]


The Tiertex-developed home-computer ports of the original Strider also use the "all just a training simulation" trope, as an excuse for not porting the entirety of the final level. --Eighty5cacao (talk) 18:03, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Super Turrican 2[edit]

Super Turrican 2 makes greater use of its grappling-hook mechanic (arbitrary angle, adjustable length) than its predecessor Turrican games. I may as well call it representative of the "real-world mission" of this WMG, but the canonical Umihara Kawase games show no evidence of alien invasions or space exploration. I haven't yet thought out how an actual fusion of these franchises would work. --Eighty5cacao (talk) 07:36, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

30 Minutes[edit]

Another hypothesis that is largely orthogonal to the main one about the training simulation:

The 30-minute time threshold in the original Umihara Kawase for Super Famicom is the timer of an explosive device, much as in the t.A.T.u. song "30 минут (30 Minutes)."

Field 28 (one of several ending levels), which can only be reached by exceeding said threshold early in the game, represents the afterlife to which the protagonist goes after failing to defuse the bomb, assuming it is real. If the bomb is indeed part of a simulation, then this level represents some dark corner of her mental world. --Eighty5cacao (talk) 05:51, 16 October 2017 (UTC)