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HTTPS Everywhere: follow-up

I think I'm calling this project done.

Do you still need to send any emails regarding Pin Eight? The idea is that, since you are the webmaster of this site, you should write the email about the rulesets specifically concerning this site, while incidentally mentioning "My friend has a list of suggested changes he'd like you to look over (link to the page). Please email me back when you are finished." (Or do you want to instruct the developers to post on a talk page somewhere?)

Are you okay with my plan for what will and will not be deleted? The rationale is that the pages about new rulesets are more likely to need retention for attribution reasons, as well as if I am tasked with further maintenance of said rulesets. Again, everything that is kept will be blanked and will remain noindexed.

The review of my changes will probably take a couple months, and it's likely not all the new rulesets will make it into the stable 4.0 release.

P.S. I will be away from the wiki during the coming week. --Eighty5cacao (talk) 05:25, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

I'll send mail this weekend. I'd prefer to merge the new rulesets 0-D pages before submitting them so that there aren't so many pages to keep courtesy blanked. --Tepples (talk) 14:11, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
Ok, I will do that myself ASAP (within today). Also, it may be obvious, but please don't mention the pages that aren't related to rulesets; I will manually file bugs for any such issues once my ideas are adequately developed. --Eighty5cacao (talk) 15:43, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
Sent. --Tepples (talk) 23:45, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
And to clarify: the redirects resulting from the merge may eventually be deleted, but not until after the developers tell us they are done looking, in case they need the revision history. --Eighty5cacao (talk) 03:50, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

So did the developers of HTTPS Everywhere ever take action on this? I'd check myself, but archives of EFF lists are 404 at the moment. --Tepples (talk) 01:19, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

It doesn't look like they have. They're probably in a ruleset freeze because they're trying to get the 4.0 release ready, and I know they similarly withheld new rulesets for a little while before 3.0. They're probably also busy working on the necessary fixes to Firefox and Chrome mixed-content blocking implementations. So as I said before, don't expect any of my changes to show up until the 5.0development (?) branch gets going; sorry for the inconvenience.
I haven't recently seen any 404s for other EFF/Tor Project mailing lists, but I haven't checked that thoroughly. --Eighty5cacao (talk) 01:34, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

I assume from the concerns you raised elsewhere about project scope that you're getting a little impatient here. I still stand by my previous comments about the release cycle. I anticipate one or two more Firefox development releases before 4.0 is stable, but I don't know how long that will take.

If you wish to send another email, make sure to explain clearly what parts of Pin Eight should and should not be covered (feel free to link to my subpages, but don't rely only on such links), and mention the need to reread/re-scrape the wiki pages.

As I said elsewhere, if you wish to delete anything from this wiki, please give me about 48 hours' advance notice so I can make backups. (I already have local backups of some but not all of these pages, in the form of user rulesets.) I advise giving the same notice to the developers and/or providing them with a static scrape of the affected pages. --Eighty5cacao (talk) 02:21, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

I'm not in the mood for deleting anything quite yet. Mostly I was concerned with pollution of Recent Changes. If things like rulesets and WMGs are kept in the "back room", so to speak, there's no problem. --Tepples (talk) 02:25, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

nesdev:Programming with unofficial opcodes linkrot is returning 403. The root level of returns 403 as well, so I assume the site has shut down. Haven't bothered to check Wayback yet --Eighty5cacao (talk) 06:17, 23 August 2013 (UTC)


I happened to notice that the oeis: interwiki prefix should be updated to$1 (https is correct; compare Wikipedia, even though there's no HTTPS Everywhere ruleset yet). --Eighty5cacao (talk) 06:13, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

HTTPS on this site: further follow-up

Just a friendly reminder: I happened to notice that the certificate will expire within about a day.

This gives me the opportunity to bring up something else: What exactly is the technical problem that precludes issuing a separate certificate for Does WebFaction only allow one cert per customer? Does StartCom require email addresses to be unique between Class 1 certificates? Or both?

Alternatively, what about moving pics to Amazon S3, which would at least allow some HTTPS Everywhere rule to be written for it? Of course, this isn't worth doing unless removing the domain's contents from WebFaction would reduce the WebFaction costs. Does WebFaction charge per domain, or is there some number of domains included with the standard account package? How does it matter whether a domain has content actually hosted on WebFaction or is just a CNAME pointing elsewhere? This wasn't entirely clear from their website. --Eighty5cacao (talk) 00:59, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

I'm nowhere near the domain and bandwidth caps set by WebFaction, and it appears each site can have its own certificate installed. It appears to be a limitation of free StartCom accounts. From the Certificates Wizard: "Note: In order to add multiple domains and sub domains, your Identity must be at least Class 2 validated. Check your status at the 'Identity Card'." In any case, I've submitted the ticket to get the new cert installed. If you're worried about HTTPS Everywhere, currently is an alias for --Tepples (talk) 04:43, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
So if I understand you correctly, <rule from="^http://pics\.pineight\.com/" to="" /> should work? Should I go ahead and add this to the working copy of the ruleset, and if so, do you need to email the developers again? --Eighty5cacao (talk) 21:12, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
It should work until this technical detail of the hosting, namely the fact that is an alias for /pics, changes. I hadn't planned on permanently committing myself to a stable HTTPS URI just yet. Is there a way for a ruleset to mark rewritten URLs as not persistent, like the difference between an HTTP 301 "Moved" and a 302 "Found"/303 "See Other"? --Tepples (talk) 22:43, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
Not that I am aware. The best alternative is probably to put it in the corresponding default-off ruleset, then. --Eighty5cacao (talk) 22:56, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
Done. And to answer your question more thoroughly: Issues of the "this might break in the future" category are typically documented in <!-- comments --> within the ruleset. It might also be good (for the benefit of end users, not necessarily developers) for you to announce something on this site a few days before such breakage occurs. --Eighty5cacao (talk) 23:11, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
I added .7z coverage after noticing you used that compression format for Holy Diver Batman, and I subsequently decided to generalize further to include all possible file extensions. (For what it's worth, don't bother reminding the developers about my other rulesets the next time you email them.) --Eighty5cacao (talk) 01:41, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

Version 4.0development.15 of HTTPS Everywhere was released earlier today. Some relevant points:

  1. No ruleset for Pin Eight has been added yet.
  2. Support for user rulesets was mistakenly removed as part of a change that puts the built-in rulesets in an SQLite container. (Due to this, I reverted the update on my system.)
  3. This email confirms the existence of a ruleset freeze.

There's an existing ticket concerning HTTPS support for YouTube streams, but that's a topic for elsewhere. --Eighty5cacao (talk) 01:04, 7 February 2014 (UTC) (+ 04:22, 7 February 2014 (UTC))

Nibbles: follow-up

(Original discussion in archive 4)

Just a random note: I found the video of the famiclone device that includes Nibbles. (I was almost right about the number of games - it's a OneStation 99-in-1 device - and I was right about the uploader of the video. I just hadn't searched thoroughly enough back then.) No need to reply. --Eighty5cacao (talk) 07:32, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

Apparently some version of the Senario 101-in-1 device does also include Nibbles. --Eighty5cacao (talk) 05:20, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
There's my game, and there's Tengen Tetris. My Senario must be a later revision (© 2006) that doesn't have nearly as much pirated crap in it, apart from two Tetris clones. --Tepples (talk) 06:08, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

zzo38's RGB approximation to the NES palette

What's the source/algorithm for the "quick and dirty" palette that zzo38 originally added here? If it was generated from Drag's algorithm, what parameters were used? --Eighty5cacao (talk) 21:52, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

I don't know. Are you asking me to ask them this on your behalf? --Tepples (talk) 23:47, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
Yes, I guess so, if it's not too much inconvenience. (This is just out of curiosity, and in case someone wants to document it on-wiki; I am not developing an emulator.)
Since IP editing is allowed in talk namespaces on NESdev, I assume that you expected me to do that. However, linking back to this post from there would disclose the relationship between one of my ISPs and this username, and you can guess that I don't like that. I was thinking that the forum might be a better venue because it is more actively read. --Eighty5cacao (talk) 01:28, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
I slightly misread the question and got the source of the current palette. --Tepples (talk) 03:38, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
Then I suppose my question was malformed — because I wasn't fast enough mentally converting hex to decimal, I thought the later edits were merely reformatting, and I didn't notice they had changed the colors in the palette. I did mean to ask about the current palette, but I guess it would help to know the sources of all revisions. By "got," did you mean that you already posted about this elsewhere? (I'm still in the middle of my daily NESdev reading.) --Eighty5cacao (talk) 04:26, 26 December 2013 (UTC) (+ 04:32, 26 December 2013 (UTC))
The reply in nesdev:Talk:PPU palettes#Source of palette alludes to Parkinson's law of triviality. --Tepples (talk) 14:02, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

Short: Sorry for wasting everyone's time then.

Long: So we now know Nestopia was used ... I've done the exact same thing, but I don't remember some of the grays in the palette containing more green than red/blue. Could this have to do with a 16-bit vs. 24/32-bit color depth setting somewhere? (You don't need to answer that; I'm not going to bother asking about the parameters anyway.) --Eighty5cacao (talk) 18:25, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

Another NESdev typo

In this post, there appears to be a sentence left incomplete between "allows" and "But." --Eighty5cacao (talk) 03:06, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

Privacy policy

The default link to Pin Eight:Privacy policy in the footer of each page is broken because we never bothered to write a privacy policy specifically for the wiki. It could just be a soft redirect to the terms of use (which contain a privacy policy) for Pin Eight as a whole, but I'd also like to mention something about best practices for handling violations, especially those made unintentionally in good faith. --Eighty5cacao (talk) 01:37, 29 January 2014 (UTC) (+ 04:16, 29 January 2014 (UTC))

Remove ohinternet:

As explained on ED, Oh Internet has been down for several months and is likely gone for good. We should remove the interwiki prefix so that any such links will appear red and will show up in Special:WantedPages, making it more obvious when fixes are needed. Any objections? --Eighty5cacao (talk) 03:10, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

It'd be easier if there were usage reports for IWs; I'll have to make my own from my backups. I've orphaned ohinternet:. If you could find any other dead IWs in the list, I'd appreciate it. --Tepples (talk) 16:02, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Spam cleanup policy question

Is it okay for me to use Special:RecentChangesCleanup to hide spam edits after you have responded to them? (The key word is "after," and this obviously applies only to non-deleted edits.) --Eighty5cacao (talk) 07:37, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

I've already been RCC-hiding spam and reverts 24 hours after cleanup, so yes. --Tepples (talk) 14:26, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

Cookie Clicker project page

Miscellaneous comments and questions about [1]:

  1. Please make the reference to the stylesheet // protocol-relative, or else it will hit mixed-content blockers. This also applies to the differences.html subpage.
    ( has officially supported HTTPS for a while, but a lot of other webmasters have made the same mistake. If it is not working for you, please explain.)
  2. What does "genetic modification controversy strikes cacao farmers" have to do with my username?
    (I do not own a NES or related hardware, and I've got too much going on in my life to be of much help testing anyway.)
  3. Why isn't anything mentioned on this wiki? Should we at least make a soft redirect from [[Cookie Clicker (NES)]] Cookie Clicker to that page?

--Eighty5cacao (talk) 22:09, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

  1. Will be pushed out as of next update.
  2. Absolutely nothing. The original quote from main.js was "News : genetically-modified chocolate controversy strikes cookie farmers!" but see the differences page under "Cosmetic" and DashNet Forums for why I changed some of the headlines.
  3. Haven't had time yet.
--Tepples (talk) 23:03, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
Ok, thanks. In response to #2, sorry for not playing the original. (This is one of maybe two things I was hinting at in the last sentence of that item.) --Eighty5cacao (talk) 00:16, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
As of now, the "Milca, the player character" box (directly below "[Mock] Upgrades with golden cookie notice") seems to be missing an image. Specifically, is returning 404; presumably it is meant to be one of the images that shows front, profile, and back views. --Eighty5cacao (talk) 01:13, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
Oops, broken duplicate, my bad. The figure will be removed next update, as I decided to put Milca's portrait higher on the page in the Story section. --Tepples (talk) 02:42, 18 April 2014 (UTC)


The protocol is mistyped in the Cracked link for Dedupe. --Eighty5cacao (talk) 17:08, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

Fixed. At the same time, I added the keywords from the Photoplasty entry to the description and made GNU and Python links protocol-relative. Let me know if anything else needs to be clarified. --Tepples (talk) 19:40, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

Maxx Wishful BG

As far as I have found, no version of StepMania from 3.9 onward successfully displays the initial background (winbg.png) in said simfile, because you placed it in the stills folder but didn't specifically tell StepMania to look there. I haven't checked whether StepMania supports a subfolder declaration in the background tag like #BACKGROUND:stills/winbg.png;.

As winbg.png is not referenced in the background animations, it could be moved to the simfile's root folder to solve this problem. However, as I know you're no longer maintaining those simfiles, would it suffice to add explanatory text to the /dwi/ page? --Eighty5cacao (talk) 06:17, 28 June 2014 (UTC)