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:''For older discussions, see archives: [[User talk:Tepples/Archive 1|1]] [[User talk:Tepples/Archive 2|2]] [[User talk:Tepples/Archive 3|3]] [[User talk:Tepples/Archive 4|4]]'' [[User talk:Tepples/Archive 5|5]]''.
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:''For older discussions, see archives: [[User talk:Tepples/Archive 1|1]] [[User talk:Tepples/Archive 2|2]] [[User talk:Tepples/Archive 3|3]] [[User talk:Tepples/Archive 4|4]] [[User talk:Tepples/Archive 5|5]] [[User talk:Tepples/Archive 6|6]] [[User talk:Tepples/Archive 7|7]] [[User talk:Tepples/Archive 8|8]] [[User talk:Tepples/Archive 9|9]]''.
  
== HTTPS Everywhere: follow-up ==
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== Interwiki table maintenance ==
  
I think I'm calling [[User:Eighty5cacao/misc/HTTPS Everywhere/rulewip|this project]] done.
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Are you running some kind of script to validate the interwiki configuration? If so, it would be nice to post the code publicly, as long as the license is at least as Free as the rest of the wiki. --[[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] ([[User talk:Eighty5cacao|talk]]) 00:47, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
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:It's not scripted. I'm just following a random IW link and seeing if it responds. (And now that you're aware of this project, I can [[Special:RecentChangesCleanup|RCC]] what I've done so far.) --[[User:Tepples|Tepples]] ([[User talk:Tepples|talk]]) 00:52, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
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::It doesn't look like you've RCC'd anything yet. Should I do so myself? I assume that RCC of interwiki maintenance should be subject to the same 24-hour delay as RCC of spam posts; does this make sense? --[[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] ([[User talk:Eighty5cacao|talk]]) 04:03, 30 September 2017 (UTC)
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:::I did RCC some from about a day before my last reply, those before your "headscratcher hooks" edits. But go ahead and apply the same rule. --[[User:Tepples|Tepples]] ([[User talk:Tepples|talk]]) 19:07, 30 September 2017 (UTC)
  
Do you still need to send any emails regarding Pin Eight?<!-- reminder if you still need it: https-everywhere-rules AT eff DOT org --> The idea is that, since you are the webmaster of this site, you should write the email about [[User:Eighty5cacao/misc/HTTPS Everywhere/rulewip/Pin Eight|the rulesets]] [[User:Eighty5cacao/misc/HTTPS Everywhere/rulewip/New rulesets (default off)#Pin Eight-experimental|specifically concerning]] this site, while incidentally mentioning "My friend has a list of suggested changes he'd like you to look over [[User:Eighty5cacao/misc/HTTPS Everywhere/rulewip|(link to the page)]]. Please email me back when you are finished." (Or do you want to instruct the developers to post on a talk page somewhere?)
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== index.php?diff= gives internal error on user scripts and stylesheets ==
  
Are you okay with [//pineight.com/mw/index.php?title=User:Eighty5cacao/misc/HTTPS_Everywhere/rulewip&diff=8761&oldid=8760 my plan for what will and will not be deleted]? The rationale is that the pages about new rulesets are more likely to need retention for attribution reasons, as well as if I am tasked with further maintenance of said rulesets. Again, everything that is kept will be blanked and will remain noindexed.
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For example, [[Special:Diff/15702]] (which redirects to <code>https://pineight.com/mw/index.php?diff=15702</code>, an edit to [[User:Eighty5cacao/common.js]]) and [[Special:Diff/15139]] (which redirects to <code>https://pineight.com/mw/index.php?diff=15139</code>, an edit to [[User:Eighty5cacao/common.css]]) show:
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<blockquote>MediaWiki internal error.
  
The review of my changes will probably take a couple months, and it's likely not all the new rulesets will make it into the stable 4.0 release.
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Exception caught inside exception handler.
  
<small>P.S. I will be away from the wiki during the coming week.</small> --[[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] ([[User talk:Eighty5cacao|talk]]) 05:25, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
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Set $wgShowExceptionDetails = true; at the bottom of LocalSettings.php to show detailed debugging information.</blockquote>
:I'll send mail this weekend. I'd prefer to merge the new rulesets 0-D pages before submitting them so that there aren't so many pages to keep courtesy blanked. --[[User:Tepples|Tepples]] ([[User talk:Tepples|talk]]) 14:11, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
 
::Ok, I will do that myself ASAP (within today). Also, it may be obvious, but please don't mention [[User:Eighty5cacao/misc/HTTPS Everywhere|the pages]] [[User:Eighty5cacao/misc/HTTPS Everywhere/feature|that aren't related]] to rulesets; I will manually file bugs for any such issues once my ideas are adequately developed. --[[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] ([[User talk:Eighty5cacao|talk]]) 15:43, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
 
:::Sent. --[[User:Tepples|Tepples]] ([[User talk:Tepples|talk]]) 23:45, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
 
::::And to clarify: the redirects resulting from [[User:Eighty5cacao/misc/HTTPS Everywhere/rulewip/New rulesets 0-D|the merge]] may eventually be deleted, but ''not until'' after the developers tell us they are done looking, in case they need the revision history. --[[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] ([[User talk:Eighty5cacao|talk]]) 03:50, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
 
::::&larr;
 
So did the developers of HTTPS Everywhere ever take action on this? I'd check myself, but archives of EFF lists are 404 at the moment. --[[User:Tepples|Tepples]] ([[User talk:Tepples|talk]]) 01:19, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
 
:It doesn't look like they have. They're probably in a ruleset freeze because they're trying to get the 4.0 release ready, and I know they similarly withheld new rulesets for a little while before 3.0. They're probably also busy working on the necessary fixes to [[bmo:878890|Firefox]] and Chrome mixed-content blocking implementations. So as I said before, don't expect any of my changes to show up until the 5.0development (?) branch gets going; sorry for the inconvenience.
 
:I haven't recently seen any 404s for other EFF/Tor Project mailing lists, but I haven't checked that thoroughly. --[[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] ([[User talk:Eighty5cacao|talk]]) 01:34, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
 
:&larr;
 
I assume from the concerns you raised elsewhere about project scope that you're getting a little impatient here. I still stand by my previous comments about the release cycle. I anticipate one or two more Firefox development releases before 4.0 is stable, but I don't know how long that will take.
 
  
If you wish to send another email, make sure to explain clearly what parts of Pin Eight should and should not be covered (feel free to link to my subpages, but don't rely ''only'' on such links), and mention the need to reread/re-scrape the wiki pages.
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The longer URLs for the same edits, <code>https://pineight.com/mw/index.php?title=User:Eighty5cacao/common.js&diff=prev&oldid=15702</code> and <code>https://pineight.com/mw/index.php?title=User:Eighty5cacao/common.css&diff=15139&oldid=15111</code>, work fine.
  
As I said elsewhere, if you wish to delete anything from this wiki, please give me about 48 hours' advance notice so I can make backups. (I already have local backups of some but not all of these pages, in the form of user rulesets.) I advise giving the same notice to the developers and/or providing them with a static scrape of the affected pages. --[[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] ([[User talk:Eighty5cacao|talk]]) 02:21, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
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[[Special:Diff/15754]], an edit to [[App Store Review Guidelines]], works fine. --[[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] ([[User talk:Eighty5cacao|talk]]) 00:52, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
:I'm not in the mood for deleting anything quite yet. Mostly I was concerned with pollution of Recent Changes. If things like rulesets and WMGs are kept in the "back room", so to speak, there's no problem. --[[User:Tepples|Tepples]] ([[User talk:Tepples|talk]]) 02:25, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
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:Can you get it to happen for any pages that aren't user CSS or user JS? If not, it's probably the same problem as [[User talk:Tepples/Archive 7#Extensions causing problems with user script and stylesheet pages?]]. When I get a chance to use the computer on which <code>LocalSettings.php</code> is maintained, I'll try to find time to disable TwitterCards on all diff pages. --[[User:Tepples|Tepples]] ([[User talk:Tepples|talk]]) 18:17, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
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::The answer as of now to the question in your first sentence is no. --[[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] ([[User talk:Eighty5cacao|talk]]) 01:11, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
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::←<!-- outdent -->
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I have just confirmed that this is still an issue. What are your plans as of now? --[[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] ([[User talk:Eighty5cacao|talk]]) 22:32, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
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:I have excluded TwitterCards from pageviews containing a nonempty <code>diff</code> query parameter. But for anything more substantial, I'll first need to dig up which computer has my hosting provider credentials so I can upgrade PHP from 5.6 to 7.x and then upgrade MediaWiki to latest stable. --[[User:Tepples|Tepples]] ([[User talk:Tepples|talk]]) 02:09, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
  
== [[nesdev:Programming with unofficial opcodes]] linkrot ==
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== Archive Team now supports HTTPS ==
  
<code>http://anyplatform.net/media/guides/cpus/65xx%20Processor%20Data.txt</code> is returning 403. The root level of <code>anyplatform.net</code> returns 403 as well, so I assume the site has shut down. Haven't bothered to check Wayback yet<!-- though a 403 when retrieving robots.txt is supposed to be interpreted as "all spidering is forbidden," because it's not a 404 --> --[[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] ([[User talk:Eighty5cacao|talk]]) 06:17, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
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For example, <code>https://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Main_Page</code> for [[archiveteam:Main Page]] --[[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] ([[User talk:Eighty5cacao|talk]]) 04:26, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
  
== oeis: ==
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== NESdev issues, March 2018 ==
  
I happened to notice that the <code>oeis:</code> interwiki prefix should be updated to <nowiki>https://oeis.org/$1</nowiki> (https is correct; compare Wikipedia, even though there's no HTTPS Everywhere ruleset [[User:Eighty5cacao/misc/HTTPS Everywhere/rulewip/New rulesets O-S#On-Line Encyclopedia of Integer Sequences|yet]]). --[[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] ([[User talk:Eighty5cacao|talk]]) 06:13, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
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=== RPG assets by Chasersgaming ===
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The link from [https://forums.nesdev.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=17072 this thread] that you posted [[nesdev:Special:Diff/14703|here]] needs to be fixed to point to <code>https://chasersgaming.itch.io/tile-set-pack-7-nes</code> (determined by carefully examining [https://chasersgaming.itch.io/ Chasersgaming's full list of projects] for those that specifically mention NES).
  
== HTTPS on this site: further follow-up ==
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The original link currently returns 404 with what looks like a standard itch.io error page; please let me know if I need to describe the symptom in more detail. --[[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] ([[User talk:Eighty5cacao|talk]]) 05:31, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
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:Both the old link and the new link work for me at the moment. Thank you for suggesting an addition to [[nesdev:Placeholder graphics]]. --[[User:Tepples|Tepples]] ([[User talk:Tepples|talk]]) 15:06, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
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::I can confirm that the old link now works for me as well. Sorry to bother you for what could have been a temporary problem. --[[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] ([[User talk:Eighty5cacao|talk]]) 23:02, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
  
Just a friendly reminder: I [https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/expiry-canary/ happened to notice] that the certificate will expire within about a day.
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== The end of Recent Changes Cleanup ==
  
This gives me the opportunity to bring up something else: What exactly is the technical problem that precludes issuing a separate certificate for <code>pics.pineight.com</code>? Does WebFaction only allow one cert per customer? Does StartCom require email addresses to be unique between Class 1 certificates? Or both?
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I seek to upgrade to MediaWiki 1.30 until such time as I can switch my hosting to PHP 7. But [[mediawikiwiki:Extension:Recent Changes Cleanup]] states that the extension is no longer maintained, and the archived version states that the extension no longer works with any supported version of MediaWiki. This means RCC will cease to be available on this wiki sometime between now and the end of August. --[[User:Tepples|Tepples]] ([[User talk:Tepples|talk]]) 02:55, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
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:Make that now. Welcome to MediaWiki 1.30. --[[User:Tepples|Tepples]] ([[User talk:Tepples|talk]]) 03:40, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
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::I apologize for the rude edit summaries and for not reading this sooner. I had been away from my computer for a little over a day and only found out the upgrade had been performed for other reasons.
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::How does this affect the project-scope policy concerns that led to the original use of RCC? I guess that edits to user scripts and stylesheets never really needed to be hidden in the first place, but the more pressing concerns are spam, cleanup of spam, and my WMG materials.
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::I was planning to register on All The Tropes in the near future anyway; I am willing to move my WMG content there, but I cannot promise any particular timescale, especially because my activity is likely to be erratic for a month or more due to real life.
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::The quick but heavy-handed fix would be to flag my account as a bot until such time as either I complete any migration of content or we find an alternative MediaWiki extension of similar utility.
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::Alternatives that would avoid hiding any future mainspace edits I make include:
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:#Configure RecentChanges not to show edits to the user namespaces (is this still possible?)
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:#Redefine the guidelines for the minor-edit flag to include everything we were previously RCCing, then configure RecentChanges not to show minor edits by default
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::--[[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] ([[User talk:Eighty5cacao|talk]]) 06:24, 20 August 2018 (UTC) to 06:48, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
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:::Project scope issues were mostly in play when this wiki was averaging a dozen or more edits a day. Now that it's slowed down a bit, they're not quite so pressing. --[[User:Tepples|Tepples]] ([[User talk:Tepples|talk]]) 13:16, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
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::::I still plan to do my share of #2: Unless I am requesting deletion or other administrator assistance, I will mark all edits to non-preferred userspace topics as minor, whether or not they would be minor under our prevailing guidelines.
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::::I agree that no change to the wiki's ''default'' configuration is needed, however. --[[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] ([[User talk:Eighty5cacao|talk]]) 17:14, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
  
Alternatively, what about moving <code>pics</code> to [[wikipedia:Amazon S3|Amazon S3]], which would at least allow some HTTPS Everywhere rule to be written for it? Of course, this isn't worth doing unless removing the domain's contents from WebFaction would reduce the WebFaction costs. Does WebFaction charge per domain, or is there some number of domains included with the standard account package? How does it matter whether a domain has content actually hosted on WebFaction or is just a CNAME pointing elsewhere? This wasn't entirely clear from their website. --[[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] ([[User talk:Eighty5cacao|talk]]) 00:59, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
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== Reevaluating definition of NES 2.0 mapper plane 2 ==
:I'm nowhere near the domain and bandwidth caps set by WebFaction, and it appears each site can have its own certificate installed. It appears to be a limitation of free StartCom accounts. From the StartSSL.com Certificates Wizard: "Note: In order to add multiple domains and sub domains, your Identity must be at least Class 2 validated. Check your status at the 'Identity Card'." In any case, I've submitted the ticket to get the new cert installed. If you're worried about HTTPS Everywhere, currently <code>pics.pineight.com</code> is an alias for <code>pineight.com/pics</code>. --[[User:Tepples|Tepples]] ([[User talk:Tepples|talk]]) 04:43, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
 
::So if I understand you correctly, <code><nowiki>&lt;rule from="^http://pics\.pineight\.com/" to="https://pineight.com/pics/" /&gt;</nowiki></code> should work? Should I go ahead and add this to [[User:Eighty5cacao/misc/HTTPS Everywhere/rulewip/Pin Eight|the working copy of the ruleset]], and if so, do you need to email the developers again? --[[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] ([[User talk:Eighty5cacao|talk]]) 21:12, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
 
:::It should work until this technical detail of the hosting, namely the fact that <code>pics.pineight.com</code> is an alias for <code>/pics</code>, changes. I hadn't planned on permanently committing myself to a stable HTTPS URI just yet. Is there a way for a ruleset to mark rewritten URLs as not persistent, like the difference between an HTTP 301 "Moved" and a 302 "Found"/303 "See Other"? --[[User:Tepples|Tepples]] ([[User talk:Tepples|talk]]) 22:43, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
 
::::Not that I am aware. The best alternative is probably to put it in the [[User:Eighty5cacao/misc/HTTPS Everywhere/rulewip/New rulesets (default off)#Pin Eight-experimental|corresponding default-off ruleset]], then. --[[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] ([[User talk:Eighty5cacao|talk]]) 22:56, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
 
::::[//pineight.com/mw/index.php?title=User:Eighty5cacao/misc/HTTPS_Everywhere/rulewip/New_rulesets_(default_off)&diff=prev&oldid=9916 Done]. And to answer your question more thoroughly: Issues of the "this might break in the future" category are typically documented in <nowiki>&lt;!--</nowiki> comments <nowiki>--&gt;</nowiki> within the ruleset. It might also be good (for the benefit of end users, not necessarily developers) for you to announce something on this site a few days before such breakage occurs. --[[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] ([[User talk:Eighty5cacao|talk]]) 23:11, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
 
:::::I [//pineight.com/mw/index.php?title=User:Eighty5cacao/misc/HTTPS_Everywhere/rulewip/Pin_Eight&diff=9999&oldid=8690 added <code>.7z</code> coverage after noticing you used that compression format for Holy Diver Batman], and I subsequently decided to [//pineight.com/mw/index.php?title=User%3AEighty5cacao%2Fmisc%2FHTTPS_Everywhere%2Frulewip%2FPin_Eight&diff=10007&oldid=9999 generalize] [//pineight.com/mw/index.php?title=User:Eighty5cacao/misc/HTTPS_Everywhere/rulewip/New_rulesets_(default_off)&diff=prev&oldid=10005 further] to include all possible file extensions. (For what it's worth, don't bother reminding the developers about my other rulesets the next time you email them.) --[[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] ([[User talk:Eighty5cacao|talk]]) 01:41, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
 
:::::←
 
Version 4.0development.15 of HTTPS Everywhere was released earlier today. Some relevant points:
 
#No ruleset for Pin Eight has been added yet.
 
#Support for user rulesets was mistakenly removed as part of a change that puts the built-in rulesets in an SQLite container. (Due to this, I reverted the update on my system.)
 
#[https://lists.eff.org/pipermail/https-everywhere-rules/2014-February/001905.html This email] confirms the existence of a ruleset freeze.
 
There's [https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/10749 an existing ticket] concerning HTTPS support for YouTube streams, but that's a topic for [[Pin Eight talk:Manual of Style/Links|elsewhere]]. --[[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] ([[User talk:Eighty5cacao|talk]]) 01:04, 7 February 2014 (UTC) (+ 04:22, 7 February 2014 (UTC))
 
  
== Nibbles: follow-up ==
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Again, sorry for not registering directly on NESdev; I will do that ASAP (read: in a few days) and let you know.
  
(Original discussion in [[User talk:Tepples/Archive 4#Nibbles|archive 4]])
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It has apparently been decided that the original Unicode-inspired names are so thoroughly unwarranted that they should not be mentioned in [[nesdev:Mapper]] even as hidden anchors.
  
Just a random note: I [//www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcrVgGfzP_U&t=8m05s found the video] of the famiclone device that includes Nibbles. (I was ''almost'' right about the number of games - it's a OneStation 99-in-1 device - and I was right about the uploader of the video. I just hadn't searched thoroughly enough back then.) No need to reply. --[[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] ([[User talk:Eighty5cacao|talk]]) 07:32, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
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It is not clear to me that the criterion "released only in the East Asian market" is being interpreted literally or researched thoroughly for every game, based on a look through the existing mapper assignments.
:Apparently some version of the [[wikia:bootleggames:Senario 101 in 1|Senario 101-in-1]] device does also include Nibbles. --[[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] ([[User talk:Eighty5cacao|talk]]) 05:20, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
 
::[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UOVH3PsHV8#t=416 There's my game], and [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAWi4TJMydg#t=473 there's Tengen Tetris]. My Senario must be a later revision (© 2006) that doesn't have nearly as much pirated crap in it, apart from two Tetris clones. --[[User:Tepples|Tepples]] ([[User talk:Tepples|talk]]) 06:08, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
 
  
== zzo38's RGB approximation to the NES palette ==
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The original motivation for following the Unicode definition was the technical requirements for displaying ideographic characters on the NES (e.g. CHR RAM), but it's not clear that this correlates strongly with hardware usage in existing games.
  
What's the source/algorithm for the "quick and dirty" palette that zzo38 originally added [http://wiki.nesdev.com/w/index.php?title=PPU_palettes&diff=7887&oldid=7096 here]? If it was generated from [http://drag.wootest.net/misc/palgen.html Drag's algorithm], what parameters were used? --[[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] ([[User talk:Eighty5cacao|talk]]) 21:52, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
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In light of the above, it is possible that the current definition of plane 2 discriminates geographically in a way that provides no benefit, and perhaps we should impose a moratorium on new assignments in plane 2 until plane 1 fills up. Comments?
:I don't know. Are you asking me to ask them this on your behalf? --[[User:Tepples|Tepples]] ([[User talk:Tepples|talk]]) 23:47, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
 
::Yes, I guess so, if it's not too much inconvenience. (This is just out of curiosity, and in case someone wants to document it on-wiki; I am not developing an emulator.)
 
::Since IP editing is allowed in talk namespaces on NESdev, I assume that you expected me to do that. However, linking back to this post from there would disclose the relationship between one of my ISPs and this username, and you can guess that I don't like that. I was thinking that the forum might be a better venue because it is more actively read. --[[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] ([[User talk:Eighty5cacao|talk]]) 01:28, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
 
:::I slightly misread the question and got the source of the ''current'' palette. --[[User:Tepples|Tepples]] ([[User talk:Tepples|talk]]) 03:38, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
 
::::Then I suppose my question was malformed&nbsp;&mdash; because I wasn't fast enough mentally converting hex to decimal, I thought the later edits were merely reformatting, and I didn't notice they had changed the colors in the palette. I ''did'' mean to ask about the ''current'' palette, but I guess it would help to know the sources of all revisions. By "got," did you mean that you already posted about this elsewhere? (I'm still in the middle of my daily NESdev reading.) --[[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] ([[User talk:Eighty5cacao|talk]]) 04:26, 26 December 2013 (UTC) (+ 04:32, 26 December 2013 (UTC))
 
:::::The reply in [[nesdev:Talk:PPU palettes#Source of palette]] alludes to [[wikipedia:Parkinson's law of triviality|Parkinson's law of triviality]]. --[[User:Tepples|Tepples]] ([[User talk:Tepples|talk]]) 14:02, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
 
:::::&larr;
 
Short: Sorry for wasting everyone's time then.
 
  
Long: So we now know Nestopia was used ... I've done the exact same thing, but I don't remember some of the grays in the palette containing more green than red/blue. Could this have to do with a 16-bit vs. 24/32-bit color depth setting somewhere? (You don't need to answer that; I'm not going to bother asking about the parameters anyway.) --[[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] ([[User talk:Eighty5cacao|talk]]) 18:25, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
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Digression: Should mapper 310 be marked as bad until it is reassigned? Should 380 be marked in some way until a public ROM exists? --[[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] ([[User talk:Eighty5cacao|talk]]) 16:51, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
  
== Another NESdev typo ==
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:Mapper 380 is a worthless redirect, and should probably be deleted. If you think it should be marked, make it a "weak reservation": anyone other than zzo38 is discouraged from using that number unless the rest of the plane is full, but it is not mandatory to avoid it (although it may be decided that "weak reservations" are not helpful, in which case just delete it). (Other "weak reserverations" may also be possible.) Mapper 310 looks worthless too (it is also a redirect), and can probably be called a "bad" mapper until it is reassigned. --[[Special:Contributions/24.207.47.161|24.207.47.161]] 05:25, 4 September 2018 (UTC)<!-- Tepples, did you get logged out? -->
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::You may take this to be my deletion request for the "INES Mapper 380" redirect (''not'' 310), but please consider userfying any useful history to Zzo38 if this hasn't already been done.<!-- I am aware of the history of both titles to the extent that neither was *created* as a redirect. I haven't looked through zzo38's userspace though. -->
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::Everything else, I will repost on NESdev myself when I register within a day or so. One more clarification I now see: "interpreted literally or researched thoroughly" is not meant to be a dichotomy; it means "It is not clear...that the criterion...is being interpreted as literally as possible in every case nor that every regional release of every game has been researched thoroughly." --[[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] ([[User talk:Eighty5cacao|talk]]) 21:24, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
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::Given the lack of uptake of SMP/SIP distinction in existing assignments, I've edited it out of the page. As for zzo38's proposals, might something like [[nesdev:File:Mfr icon reserved.png]] be useful for cases like this? <!--24.* wasn't me.-->--[[User:Tepples|Tepples]] ([[User talk:Tepples|talk]]) 22:20, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
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:::No objection. (To clarify further: 310 is "bad" because it was genuinely assigned in error, while 380 is the only candidate for the new "reserved" status) --[[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] ([[User talk:Eighty5cacao|talk]]) 16:35, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
  
In [http://forums.nesdev.com/viewtopic.php?p=123869#p123869 this post], there appears to be a sentence left incomplete between "allows" and "But." --[[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] ([[User talk:Eighty5cacao|talk]]) 03:06, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
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== Wikia's redirection script no longer works ==
  
== Privacy policy ==
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I noticed this when I found that an editor on [[nesdev:CPU unofficial opcodes]] attempted to use [[nesdev:Template:Dead link]], which ''does not exist yet''.
  
The default link to [[Pin Eight:Privacy policy]] in the footer of each page is broken because we never bothered to write a privacy policy specifically for the wiki. It ''could'' just be a soft redirect to [//pineight.com/legal/ the terms of use (which contain a privacy policy) for Pin Eight as a whole], but I'd also like to mention something about best practices for handling violations, especially [[Talk:Action 53#Brez|those made unintentionally in good faith]].<!-- This is privacy in the [[wikipedia:WP:Harassment]] sense, which our existing policy doesn't really cover --> --[[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] ([[User talk:Eighty5cacao|talk]]) 01:37, 29 January 2014 (UTC) (+ 04:16, 29 January 2014 (UTC))
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The behavior appears to be that the <code>www.wikia.com/wiki/c:''wikiname'':''pagename''</code> URLs no longer redirect, instead showing what is presumably the same error page the MediaWiki software generates for direct links to any nonexistent page (I stupidly panicked and hit stop before it finished loading).
  
== Remove ohinternet: ==
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Assuming this isn't a temporary problem, I see two solution approaches (for both Pin Eight and NESdev):
  
As explained on ED, Oh Internet has been down for several months and is likely gone for good. We should remove the interwiki prefix so that any such links will appear red and will show up in [[Special:WantedPages]], making it more obvious when fixes are needed. Any objections? --[[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] ([[User talk:Eighty5cacao|talk]]) 03:10, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
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#Remove the <code>wikia:</code> interwiki prefix ''before'' any cleanup effort, so that [[Special:WantedPages]] can be used to find the offending links. This may be undesirable for readers.
:It'd be easier if there were usage reports for IWs; I'll have to make my own from [[User talk:Tepples/Archive 4#Validity|my backups]]. I've orphaned <code>ohinternet:</code>. If you could find any other dead IWs in [[Special:Interwiki|the list]], I'd appreciate it. --[[User:Tepples|Tepples]] ([[User talk:Tepples|talk]]) 16:02, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
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#Create a self-hosted PHP script that performs the desired redirection, similar to <code>trope.php</code> but preferably with no interstitial page. Reconfigure the <code>wikia:</code> prefix to point there.
  
== Spam cleanup policy question ==
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Be aware that Pin Eight's <code>wikia:</code> prefix is configured to include the <code>c:</code>, while NESdev's is not and therefore requires editors to include <code>c:</code> in the link manually.
  
Is it okay for me to use [[Special:RecentChangesCleanup]] to hide spam edits after you have responded to them? (The key word is "after," and this obviously applies only to non-deleted edits.) --[[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] ([[User talk:Eighty5cacao|talk]]) 07:37, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
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In the meantime, I will change any links here on Pin Eight to use external-link format to point directly to the desired target. The specific link on NESdev should probably be changed to point to a category (<code>http://bootleggames.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Aladdin_games</code>) rather than a special page. --[[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] ([[User talk:Eighty5cacao|talk]]) 03:07, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
:I've already been RCC-hiding spam and reverts 24 hours after cleanup, so yes. --[[User:Tepples|Tepples]] ([[User talk:Tepples|talk]]) 14:26, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
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:To clarify: No, I haven't registered on NESdev (or All The Tropes) yet; I got busy with real life, again. I do acknowledge that I should perhaps have raised this issue on the talk page of the NESdev article. --[[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] ([[User talk:Eighty5cacao|talk]]) 15:26, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
 
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:Do [[wikia:bootleggames:Category:Aladdin games]] and [[wikia:c:bootleggames:Category:Aladdin games]] go where you expect? (Neither of them has anything to do with a Deck Enhancer though.) --[[User:Tepples|Tepples]] ([[User talk:Tepples|talk]]) 03:17, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
== Cookie Clicker project page ==
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::They appear to work; it appears that some character encoding is not fully undone (specifically, I get redirected to <code>http://bootleggames.wikia.com/wiki/Category%3AAladdin_games</code>), but Wikia's servers/MediaWiki installation accept that to refer to the same page, if it is even technically considered a different URL. --[[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] ([[User talk:Eighty5cacao|talk]]) 05:35, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
 
 
Miscellaneous comments and questions about [//pineight.com/cookieclicker/]:
 
 
 
#Please make the reference to the stylesheet <code><nowiki>//fonts.googleapis.com/css?family=Kavoon</nowiki></code> protocol-relative, or else it will hit mixed-content blockers. This also applies to the <code>differences.html</code> subpage.<br />(<code>fonts.googleapis.com</code> has officially supported HTTPS for a while, but a lot of other webmasters have made the same mistake. If it is not working for you, please explain.)
 
#What does "genetic modification controversy strikes cacao farmers" have to do with my username?<br />(I do not own a NES or related hardware, and I've got too much going on in my life to be of much help testing anyway.)<!-- No, I am not offended, nor do I think there is any privacy issue. -->
 
#Why isn't anything mentioned on this wiki? Should we at least make a soft redirect from <del><nowiki>[[Cookie Clicker (NES)]]</nowiki></del> [[Cookie Clicker]] to that page?
 
 
 
--[[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] ([[User talk:Eighty5cacao|talk]]) 22:09, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
 
:#Will be pushed out as of next update.
 
:#Absolutely nothing. The original quote from [http://orteil.dashnet.org/cookieclicker/main.js main.js] was "News : genetically-modified chocolate controversy strikes cookie farmers!" but see [//pineight.com/cookieclicker/differences.html the differences page under "Cosmetic"] and [http://forum.dashnet.org/discussion/3562/news-orteil-loses-conciseness-over-time/p1 DashNet Forums] for why I changed some of the headlines.
 
:#Haven't had time yet.
 
:--[[User:Tepples|Tepples]] ([[User talk:Tepples|talk]]) 23:03, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
 
::Ok, thanks. In response to #2, sorry for not playing the original. (This is one of maybe two things I was hinting at in the last sentence of that item.) --[[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] ([[User talk:Eighty5cacao|talk]]) 00:16, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
 
::As of now, the "Milca, the player character" box (directly below "[Mock] Upgrades with golden cookie notice") seems to be missing an image. Specifically, <code>https://pineight.com/cookieclicker/milca_x2.png</code> is returning 404; presumably it is meant to be one of the images that [http://forums.nesdev.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=11166 shows front, profile, and back views]. --[[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] ([[User talk:Eighty5cacao|talk]]) 01:13, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
 
:::Oops, broken duplicate, my bad. The figure will be removed next update, as I decided to put Milca's portrait higher on the page in the Story section. --[[User:Tepples|Tepples]] ([[User talk:Tepples|talk]]) 02:42, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Dedupe ==
 
 
 
The protocol is mistyped in the ''Cracked'' link for [//pineight.com/pc/#dedupe Dedupe]. --[[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] ([[User talk:Eighty5cacao|talk]]) 17:08, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
 
:Fixed. At the same time, I added the keywords from the Photoplasty entry to the description and made GNU and Python links protocol-relative. Let me know if anything else needs to be clarified. --[[User:Tepples|Tepples]] ([[User talk:Tepples|talk]]) 19:40, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Maxx Wishful BG ==
 
 
 
As far as I have found, no version of StepMania from 3.9 onward successfully displays the initial background (<code>winbg.png</code>) in said simfile, because you placed it in the <code>stills</code> folder but didn't specifically tell StepMania to look there. I haven't checked whether StepMania supports a subfolder declaration in the background tag like <code>#BACKGROUND:stills/winbg.png;</code>.
 
 
 
As <code>winbg.png</code> is not referenced in the background animations, it could be moved to the simfile's root folder to solve this problem. However, as I know you're no longer maintaining those simfiles, would it suffice to add explanatory text to the /dwi/ page? --[[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] ([[User talk:Eighty5cacao|talk]]) 06:17, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
 

Latest revision as of 05:35, 9 November 2018

For older discussions, see archives: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9.

Interwiki table maintenance[edit]

Are you running some kind of script to validate the interwiki configuration? If so, it would be nice to post the code publicly, as long as the license is at least as Free as the rest of the wiki. --Eighty5cacao (talk) 00:47, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

It's not scripted. I'm just following a random IW link and seeing if it responds. (And now that you're aware of this project, I can RCC what I've done so far.) --Tepples (talk) 00:52, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
It doesn't look like you've RCC'd anything yet. Should I do so myself? I assume that RCC of interwiki maintenance should be subject to the same 24-hour delay as RCC of spam posts; does this make sense? --Eighty5cacao (talk) 04:03, 30 September 2017 (UTC)
I did RCC some from about a day before my last reply, those before your "headscratcher hooks" edits. But go ahead and apply the same rule. --Tepples (talk) 19:07, 30 September 2017 (UTC)

index.php?diff= gives internal error on user scripts and stylesheets[edit]

For example, Special:Diff/15702 (which redirects to https://pineight.com/mw/index.php?diff=15702, an edit to User:Eighty5cacao/common.js) and Special:Diff/15139 (which redirects to https://pineight.com/mw/index.php?diff=15139, an edit to User:Eighty5cacao/common.css) show:

MediaWiki internal error.

Exception caught inside exception handler.

Set $wgShowExceptionDetails = true; at the bottom of LocalSettings.php to show detailed debugging information.

The longer URLs for the same edits, https://pineight.com/mw/index.php?title=User:Eighty5cacao/common.js&diff=prev&oldid=15702 and https://pineight.com/mw/index.php?title=User:Eighty5cacao/common.css&diff=15139&oldid=15111, work fine.

Special:Diff/15754, an edit to App Store Review Guidelines, works fine. --Eighty5cacao (talk) 00:52, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

Can you get it to happen for any pages that aren't user CSS or user JS? If not, it's probably the same problem as User talk:Tepples/Archive 7#Extensions causing problems with user script and stylesheet pages?. When I get a chance to use the computer on which LocalSettings.php is maintained, I'll try to find time to disable TwitterCards on all diff pages. --Tepples (talk) 18:17, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
The answer as of now to the question in your first sentence is no. --Eighty5cacao (talk) 01:11, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

I have just confirmed that this is still an issue. What are your plans as of now? --Eighty5cacao (talk) 22:32, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

I have excluded TwitterCards from pageviews containing a nonempty diff query parameter. But for anything more substantial, I'll first need to dig up which computer has my hosting provider credentials so I can upgrade PHP from 5.6 to 7.x and then upgrade MediaWiki to latest stable. --Tepples (talk) 02:09, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Archive Team now supports HTTPS[edit]

For example, https://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Main_Page for archiveteam:Main Page --Eighty5cacao (talk) 04:26, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

NESdev issues, March 2018[edit]

RPG assets by Chasersgaming[edit]

The link from this thread that you posted here needs to be fixed to point to https://chasersgaming.itch.io/tile-set-pack-7-nes (determined by carefully examining Chasersgaming's full list of projects for those that specifically mention NES).

The original link currently returns 404 with what looks like a standard itch.io error page; please let me know if I need to describe the symptom in more detail. --Eighty5cacao (talk) 05:31, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

Both the old link and the new link work for me at the moment. Thank you for suggesting an addition to nesdev:Placeholder graphics. --Tepples (talk) 15:06, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
I can confirm that the old link now works for me as well. Sorry to bother you for what could have been a temporary problem. --Eighty5cacao (talk) 23:02, 4 March 2018 (UTC)

The end of Recent Changes Cleanup[edit]

I seek to upgrade to MediaWiki 1.30 until such time as I can switch my hosting to PHP 7. But mediawikiwiki:Extension:Recent Changes Cleanup states that the extension is no longer maintained, and the archived version states that the extension no longer works with any supported version of MediaWiki. This means RCC will cease to be available on this wiki sometime between now and the end of August. --Tepples (talk) 02:55, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

Make that now. Welcome to MediaWiki 1.30. --Tepples (talk) 03:40, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
I apologize for the rude edit summaries and for not reading this sooner. I had been away from my computer for a little over a day and only found out the upgrade had been performed for other reasons.
How does this affect the project-scope policy concerns that led to the original use of RCC? I guess that edits to user scripts and stylesheets never really needed to be hidden in the first place, but the more pressing concerns are spam, cleanup of spam, and my WMG materials.
I was planning to register on All The Tropes in the near future anyway; I am willing to move my WMG content there, but I cannot promise any particular timescale, especially because my activity is likely to be erratic for a month or more due to real life.
The quick but heavy-handed fix would be to flag my account as a bot until such time as either I complete any migration of content or we find an alternative MediaWiki extension of similar utility.
Alternatives that would avoid hiding any future mainspace edits I make include:
  1. Configure RecentChanges not to show edits to the user namespaces (is this still possible?)
  2. Redefine the guidelines for the minor-edit flag to include everything we were previously RCCing, then configure RecentChanges not to show minor edits by default
--Eighty5cacao (talk) 06:24, 20 August 2018 (UTC) to 06:48, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
Project scope issues were mostly in play when this wiki was averaging a dozen or more edits a day. Now that it's slowed down a bit, they're not quite so pressing. --Tepples (talk) 13:16, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
I still plan to do my share of #2: Unless I am requesting deletion or other administrator assistance, I will mark all edits to non-preferred userspace topics as minor, whether or not they would be minor under our prevailing guidelines.
I agree that no change to the wiki's default configuration is needed, however. --Eighty5cacao (talk) 17:14, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Reevaluating definition of NES 2.0 mapper plane 2[edit]

Again, sorry for not registering directly on NESdev; I will do that ASAP (read: in a few days) and let you know.

It has apparently been decided that the original Unicode-inspired names are so thoroughly unwarranted that they should not be mentioned in nesdev:Mapper even as hidden anchors.

It is not clear to me that the criterion "released only in the East Asian market" is being interpreted literally or researched thoroughly for every game, based on a look through the existing mapper assignments.

The original motivation for following the Unicode definition was the technical requirements for displaying ideographic characters on the NES (e.g. CHR RAM), but it's not clear that this correlates strongly with hardware usage in existing games.

In light of the above, it is possible that the current definition of plane 2 discriminates geographically in a way that provides no benefit, and perhaps we should impose a moratorium on new assignments in plane 2 until plane 1 fills up. Comments?

Digression: Should mapper 310 be marked as bad until it is reassigned? Should 380 be marked in some way until a public ROM exists? --Eighty5cacao (talk) 16:51, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

Mapper 380 is a worthless redirect, and should probably be deleted. If you think it should be marked, make it a "weak reservation": anyone other than zzo38 is discouraged from using that number unless the rest of the plane is full, but it is not mandatory to avoid it (although it may be decided that "weak reservations" are not helpful, in which case just delete it). (Other "weak reserverations" may also be possible.) Mapper 310 looks worthless too (it is also a redirect), and can probably be called a "bad" mapper until it is reassigned. --24.207.47.161 05:25, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
You may take this to be my deletion request for the "INES Mapper 380" redirect (not 310), but please consider userfying any useful history to Zzo38 if this hasn't already been done.
Everything else, I will repost on NESdev myself when I register within a day or so. One more clarification I now see: "interpreted literally or researched thoroughly" is not meant to be a dichotomy; it means "It is not clear...that the criterion...is being interpreted as literally as possible in every case nor that every regional release of every game has been researched thoroughly." --Eighty5cacao (talk) 21:24, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
Given the lack of uptake of SMP/SIP distinction in existing assignments, I've edited it out of the page. As for zzo38's proposals, might something like nesdev:File:Mfr icon reserved.png be useful for cases like this? --Tepples (talk) 22:20, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
No objection. (To clarify further: 310 is "bad" because it was genuinely assigned in error, while 380 is the only candidate for the new "reserved" status) --Eighty5cacao (talk) 16:35, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

Wikia's redirection script no longer works[edit]

I noticed this when I found that an editor on nesdev:CPU unofficial opcodes attempted to use nesdev:Template:Dead link, which does not exist yet.

The behavior appears to be that the www.wikia.com/wiki/c:wikiname:pagename URLs no longer redirect, instead showing what is presumably the same error page the MediaWiki software generates for direct links to any nonexistent page (I stupidly panicked and hit stop before it finished loading).

Assuming this isn't a temporary problem, I see two solution approaches (for both Pin Eight and NESdev):

  1. Remove the wikia: interwiki prefix before any cleanup effort, so that Special:WantedPages can be used to find the offending links. This may be undesirable for readers.
  2. Create a self-hosted PHP script that performs the desired redirection, similar to trope.php but preferably with no interstitial page. Reconfigure the wikia: prefix to point there.

Be aware that Pin Eight's wikia: prefix is configured to include the c:, while NESdev's is not and therefore requires editors to include c: in the link manually.

In the meantime, I will change any links here on Pin Eight to use external-link format to point directly to the desired target. The specific link on NESdev should probably be changed to point to a category (http://bootleggames.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Aladdin_games) rather than a special page. --Eighty5cacao (talk) 03:07, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

To clarify: No, I haven't registered on NESdev (or All The Tropes) yet; I got busy with real life, again. I do acknowledge that I should perhaps have raised this issue on the talk page of the NESdev article. --Eighty5cacao (talk) 15:26, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
Do wikia:bootleggames:Category:Aladdin games and wikia:c:bootleggames:Category:Aladdin games go where you expect? (Neither of them has anything to do with a Deck Enhancer though.) --Tepples (talk) 03:17, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
They appear to work; it appears that some character encoding is not fully undone (specifically, I get redirected to http://bootleggames.wikia.com/wiki/Category%3AAladdin_games), but Wikia's servers/MediaWiki installation accept that to refer to the same page, if it is even technically considered a different URL. --Eighty5cacao (talk) 05:35, 9 November 2018 (UTC)