Talk:Songs that sound alike (video games)

Public domain

"Only cases of plausible cryptomnesia are listed here, not self-plagiarism, authorized tributes, or use of public-domain material."

But it'd still be a good idea to make a separate section for PD music used in games. For example, "Csikos Post" appeared in Yoshi's Cookie for NES, "Kalinka" appeared in Tetяis for NES, and "Dance of the Sugar-Plum Fairy" appeared in Tetris for NES. --Tepples 06:53, 28 August 2010 (MST)

I would prefer to locate that at a separate page title: User:Eighty5cacao/Public-domain music in video games. Eighty5cacao 11:05, 28 August 2010 (MST)

YT links that are not demos

If "a separate video for each song is not acceptable" as a demo, then where (if anywhere) do we put YouTube links that don't qualify as demos?

I can see how there might not be adequate fair-use justification for providing links to videos of individual songs, but average readers are not intimately familiar with video-game music. I see that you added a link to a .spc file; is that intended to set a precedent for links going in the First and Second boxes? Eighty5cacao 17:38, 3 October 2010 (MST) (originally 10:40 and 19:14, 30 September 2010 (MST) at Talk:Songs that sound alike)

I guess so. If a song is not familiar to the public, and you can't find a medley or mash-up, go ahead and link to the individual songs in the first and second columns. But eventually, we want a medley or mash-up here, and I plan to get Cortado installed (like on Wikipedia and Commons) so that we can upload .ogg demos and have them play on Firefox, Chrome, Opera, or any UA with a Java applet player. --Tepples 09:59, 4 October 2010 (MST)

Ogg upload is enabled, but I couldn't get OggHandler installed because I don't think Go Daddy would want me running FFmpeg on the cheapest shared hosting package it offers. Go ahead and make your mash-ups and post them here without fearing interference from YouTube's Content ID which is incapable of distinguishing fair use/fair dealing from infringement. --Tepples 21:15, 16 October 2010 (MST)

Regarding move

I didn't personally think this was quite ready for mainspace (and it took me a bit of willpower not to call this talk section "Move disputed"), although I admit that most of the sourcing issues I identified can't be resolved promptly. I have no intentions to revert this move, and I am sorry if I sound unappreciative, but in the future I would prefer to be consulted via talk pages before such a move is performed.

For that matter, could we move User:Eighty5cacao/misc/Manual of Style (songs that sound alike) to the same title without "misc" for now? (I will perform the move myself unless there are strong objections.) I'd need to write a couple more "How" rules before it's ready for projectspace. Eighty5cacao 11:55, 28 November 2010 (MST)

The legend of Jordan? Wario Jordan?

To me, "Jordan" sounds like one of the tracks from WarioWare Inc.: Mega Party Game$ for GameCube. Play intro boss stage or go to Single Player > Album > All (can't dig up YouTube for this at the moment). And in turn, this sounds a bit like "The legend of MAX" by ZZ (yet another Naoki alias) from DDR Extreme. --Tepples 14:15, 15 January 2011 (MST)

Ok, will think about it. Do you have any objections to my existing entry? BTW, I wrote a bit of an apology on Talk:Main Page - sorry for the digression. Eighty5cacao 14:22, 15 January 2011 (MST)

I can hear the resemblance to "Radical Faith". Perhaps it's just distorted by the fact that I had "Radical Faith" as the test song when I was developing Luminesweeper, and the G# F# at the end of the loop is where I connected it to "LoM". In short, the existing entry is fine, but you can expect more entries once I drag out my Wii to play WWMPG. --Tepples 14:28, 15 January 2011 (MST)

Example of authorized reuse

When I mentioned this in the intro, my original intent was to provide a specific example. What I had in mind was Strike Man's theme from MM10 being similar to Tornado Man's from MM9, but as you know, I had forgotten about MM9 exactly reusing music from 2.

The next example that came to my mind was "Legendary Wings" from Thunder Force V reusing "Back to the Fire" from Thunder Force III, but I know this might not be familiar enough to most readers.

Comments/suggestions? Should we create another article or subpage for authorized reuse? If so, how should we distinguish exact from approximate reuse? Eighty5cacao 23:02, 9 February 2011 (MST)

One authorized reuse is the loader theme from Comic Bakery for C=64 in Jurassic Park for NES. (Imagine published the C=64 version of Konami's Comic Bakery, and by the time JP came out, Imagine was part of Ocean.) If you can think of a bunch more, feel free to make a user page about them. --Tepples 07:46, 10 February 2011 (MST)

Just for the record: DXY!

This post is just to record some references, which probably wouldn't fit into the edit summary of a dummy edit.

The appearance of "DXY!" in Beatmania IIDX 4th style is noted in Zenius-I-vanisher's game database.

That IIDX 4th style predated DDR 5thMIX is mentioned on Wikipedia. Eighty5cacao 22:29, 14 March 2011 (MST)

Interesting, thanks

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