"Only cases of plausible cryptomnesia are listed here, not self-plagiarism, authorized tributes, or use of public-domain material."
But it'd still be a good idea to make a separate section for PD music used in games. For example, "Csikos Post" appeared in Yoshi's Cookie for NES, "Kalinka" appeared in Tetяis for NES, and "Dance of the Sugar-Plum Fairy" appeared in Tetris for NES. --Tepples 06:53, 28 August 2010 (MST)
If "a separate video for each song is not acceptable" as a demo, then where (if anywhere) do we put YouTube links that don't qualify as demos?
I can see how there might not be adequate fair-use justification for providing links to videos of individual songs, but average readers are not intimately familiar with video-game music. I see that you added a link to a .spc file; is that intended to set a precedent for links going in the First and Second boxes? Eighty5cacao 17:38, 3 October 2010 (MST) (originally 10:40 and 19:14, 30 September 2010 (MST) at Talk:Songs that sound alike)
I didn't personally think this was quite ready for mainspace (and it took me a bit of willpower not to call this talk section "Move disputed"), although I admit that most of the sourcing issues I identified can't be resolved promptly. I have no intentions to revert this move, and I am sorry if I sound unappreciative, but in the future I would prefer to be consulted via talk pages before such a move is performed.
For that matter, could we move User:Eighty5cacao/misc/Manual of Style (songs that sound alike) to the same title without "misc" for now? (I will perform the move myself unless there are strong objections.) I'd need to write a couple more "How" rules before it's ready for projectspace. Eighty5cacao 11:55, 28 November 2010 (MST)
To me, "Jordan" sounds like one of the tracks from WarioWare Inc.: Mega Party Game$ for GameCube. Play intro boss stage or go to Single Player > Album > All (can't dig up YouTube for this at the moment). And in turn, this sounds a bit like "The legend of MAX" by ZZ (yet another Naoki alias) from DDR Extreme. --Tepples 14:15, 15 January 2011 (MST)
When I mentioned this in the intro, my original intent was to provide a specific example. What I had in mind was Strike Man's theme from MM10 being similar to Tornado Man's from MM9, but as you know, I had forgotten about MM9 exactly reusing music from 2.
The next example that came to my mind was "Legendary Wings" from Thunder Force V reusing "Back to the Fire" from Thunder Force III, but I know this might not be familiar enough to most readers.
Comments/suggestions? Should we create another article or subpage for authorized reuse? If so, how should we distinguish exact from approximate reuse? Eighty5cacao 23:02, 9 February 2011 (MST)
This post is just to record some references, which probably wouldn't fit into the edit summary of a dummy edit.
The appearance of "DXY!" in Beatmania IIDX 4th style is noted in Zenius-I-vanisher's game database.
That IIDX 4th style predated DDR 5thMIX is mentioned on Wikipedia. Eighty5cacao 22:29, 14 March 2011 (MST)
It's a bit misleading to say that Michael Jackson's team "composed the game's soundtrack" when in fact some of his work was deliberately scrubbed out. (See Wikipedia: Sonic the Hedgehog 3 — Michael Jackson's non-involvement.)
I chickened out before I could boldly remove the sentence, so I am posting a note here. Eighty5cacao 13:27, 10 October 2011 (MST)
Both games in question are believed to have been composed by Michiharu Hasuya, as explained on GDRI. I would have put this in the Notes box myself, but I wasn't sure how to best write the footnote, or whether I should find a different page to cite.
BTW, could we set up a gdri:
interwiki prefix? One caveat: GDRI normally deletes redirects created by moves. In particular, the status of GDRI's Company
namespace is uncertain. Either it's intended only for 100% finished articles, or it's being deprecated entirely. You may notice that articles are sometimes moved from the Company
namespace to the main namespace, and the redirects are usually deleted. Since there's no way to predict when a particular article link will break, our MoS needs to tell people to link to [[gdri:Special:Search/companyname]]
. (This only applies to articles about companies, not other pages like Mega Drive/Genesis Sound Engine List.) Eighty5cacao 13:18, 26 November 2011 (MST) (last edit 10:26, 17 December 2011 (MST))
This is most likely Coincedential, But I have recorded and compared the NSF tracks 8/9 of Now Production's Yo! Noid and Track 7 of Atlus's Widget, There is a little feeling that it almost literally copied from Yo! Noid.
Will need to make a Youtube Video of it once I got time! --Hamtaro126 06:41, 27 November 2011 (MST)
You semi-protected this page because of Anonymous Coward vandalism to a redirect.
Did you mean to protect the redirect itself instead also? Eighty5cacao 17:41, 17 April 2012 (MST)
Has anyone heard NSF Track 1 of Power Punch, most of the background notes sounds like it is from the Cheetahmen Theme. Just verifying! --Hamtaro126 00:49, 13 August 2012 (MST)
I am aware of it. Still TODO --Eighty5cacao (talk) 23:22, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
"Hammer Bros. theme is far less close" — how so? I didn't think it was bad enough to require a removal of the entry, with the only aggravating factor being a Copyrobeast attack on the demo I originally found. (I will keep looking for another.) Please use specific music-theory terms in your explanation when possible. --Eighty5cacao (talk) 17:18, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
The Jetzons - Hard Times vs. Ice Cap Zone (Sonic Retro, mentioning YouTube)
I don't believe this qualifies for the article, as Brad Buxer's involvement with both makes it potentially self-plagiarism. --Eighty5cacao (talk) 00:36, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
"TODO: Should the parent page link to the main STSA page?"
To rephrase the part that you removed from this comment: Should Songs that sound alike contain a link to allthetropes:Suspiciously Similar Song (the top-level page, as opposed to one of its subpages)? If so, where? --Eighty5cacao (talk) 17:22, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
A couple more suggestions from #nesdev:
Any merit? --Tepples (talk) 20:03, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
A note may be appreciated for this edit; I'm not quite sure after having a listen to "Trap Queen" whether you meant the original "Disconnected" or one of the versions with a subtitle. --Eighty5cacao (talk) 23:44, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
While I was working on composing a soundtrack for a game that adrian09_01 is programming, adrian09_01 also suggested a bunch of pairs, which I lacked time to evaluate because I was busy composing the soundtrack for him. --Tepples (talk) 20:12, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
adrian09_01 suggested a bunch more:
--Tepples (talk) 19:34, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
Another:
Another, if someone wants to go verify:
Another:
And more:
Additional submissions from adrian09_01, which I haven't yet taken the time to verify and wikify:
Judas Priest - Electric Eye | War in the Gulf title Playthrough on YouTube |
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Scorpions - Rock You Like a Hurricane | War in the Gulf Stage 5: Underground Palace | ||
Scorpions - Still Loving You | War in the Gulf Ending | ||
Ozzy Osbourne - Crazy Train | War in the Gulf - Stage 4: Attack at the Airport | Solo of the former | |
Dana - All Kinds of Everything | Magic Jewelry (NES) - Level 0 | ||
Chen Yang - Happy Chinese Festival | Magic Jewelry (NES) - Level 1 | ||
Leehom Wang - Descendants of the Dragon (龍的傳人) | Magic Jewelry (NES) - Level 2 | ||
Altered Beast - Rise from your Grave | Magic Jewelry (NES) - Level 3 | ||
Carl Maria von Weber - Jagerchor | Magic Jewelry (NES) - Level 4 | ||
Dick Robertson - Moonlight on the Colorado | Magic Jewelry (NES) - Level 5 | ||
Andy Williams - Speak Softly Love | Magic Jewelry (NES) - Level 7 | ||
Cowboy Copas - Tennessee Waltz | Punch Sprite (NES) - Main Theme, Block Force - Music 2, Magic Jewelry 2 - Level 5 |
Wild Ball (NES) - Main Theme / Emi-Chan no Moero Yakyuuken - Main Theme (makes sense considering the former is a cartridge "demake" of the latter)
I might have to figure out some sort of step-by-step procedure through which anyone can evaluate a submission. I fear, however, that maintaining any sort of automation of this process is likely to fall victim to the time-sink that Randall Munroe described in xkcd #1319 "Automation". --Tepples (talk) 19:06, 11 November 2020 (UTC) --Tepples (talk) 19:06, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
No time to evaluate today: "Kaiketsu Yanchamaru 2: Karakuri Land (NES) - Title Screen / Daniel Ingram - Winter Wrap Up (MLP song) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kZa3WKrVBE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9BAeyZhAdE" --Tepples (talk) 19:03, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kZa3WKrVBE&t=120s also this (Strange Land track, 2:00 time mark) turns into a Disco Polo song. Compare the choruses https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLQ_8N9b8zU 1:07 in the Disco Polo song" --Tepples (talk) 19:12, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
After adrian09_01 (ab)used the NESdev Discord's #chiptuning channel as a means of submitting pairs to this list, others joined in. Submitted by KitsuneFox:
JungleTac sound team - Beat the Bird (VT369) (late 2000s?) - Main Theme / The Games Factory (1996) default MIDIs - JAZZY1.MID
Hummer Cheng - Rings (Panda Adventure hack) (2005) - Unused Music $2D / MIDI Transit Authority (1992) sample MIDIs - BIGCITY.MID (On a side note: the same MIDI is also reused by The Games Factory (1996) as MELRIPP1.MID, and by Uz 3.0 (1998) as UZ3PIPS.MID)
Harumi Fujita - Chip 'n Dale Rescue Rangers - Zone 0 (1990) / Bojan Urosevic - Bud Redhead: The Time Chase (2003) - Forest Theme
--Tepples (talk) 02:56, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
I've received evidence through the SMS Power Discord server that Hiroshi Miyauchi and Hiroshi Kawaguchi are names for the same person. Compare the work list in Hiro's Hitmaker profile, Hiro's Twitter account, and Hiro's profile on wave-master (all in Japanese language) to Hiro's credits on SMS Power under one name and the other. --Tepples (talk) 10:51, 13 February 2021 (UTC)