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* Muse - "Time Is Running Out" (2003) vs. The Offspring - "You're Gonna Go Far, Kid" (2008)
 
* Muse - "Time Is Running Out" (2003) vs. The Offspring - "You're Gonna Go Far, Kid" (2008)
 
* Muse - "Uprising" (2009) vs. The Offspring - "Coming for You" (2015)
 
* Muse - "Uprising" (2009) vs. The Offspring - "Coming for You" (2015)
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* The Doors - "Roadhouse Blues" (1970) vs. Muse - "Psycho" (2015)--Muse's song uses the same riff for the verses.
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* Van Halen - "Panama" (1984) vs. Ratt - "Round and Round" (1984) (pre-chorus)
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If I do add "Panama", I'll have to compare it to Glenn Frey - "The Heat Is On" (1984) (chorus). --[[User:Tepples|Tepples]] ([[User talk:Tepples|talk]]) 01:56, 4 October 2017 (UTC)

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I Miss you - Safe Inside

Just been listening to the new song by James Arthur 'Safe Inside' and all i can hear is Blink 182 'I Miss You' .. nobody i know has commented on it or thought it until i point it out, anyone else think so?

Horse With No Name- melody

I was at work listening to Music Choice on satellite, when the exact guitar riffs for America's "Horse With No Name" came on... then the lyrics started, a group of girls/women singing a totally different song over the now continuing America melody. I thought it was TLC or Destiny's Child, but I can't find it... Anyone????

Michael Jackson's voice was somewhat feminine. Could it have been his "A Place with No Name"? --Tepples (talk) 16:34, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

A couple random ones

The Rolling Stones, "Anybody Seen My Baby" vs. "Constant Craving" by k. d. lang (mentioned on the song's wikipedia page)

"Africa" by Toto vs. "Fireflies" by Owl City.....I can't remember the names of the songs and this is odd but both Rosanna and Africa by toto sound like separate songs by Curtis mayfield both on superfly sound track

Christina Perri - A Thousand Years vs. The Fray - Look After You

The Hollies "The Air That I Breathe" and the part midway through Radiohead's "Creep". Direct melody ripoff.

Another random one- this one from a Canadian from Vancouver, B.C., I know I am not of Yugoslav descent but I am big fan of pop music from ex-Yugoslavia (LOL); Elise Estrada's 2009 song "Poison" amazingly sounds to me like a song from 1970s and 1980s pop legend from Croatia- "Volim Te" (I Love You) by Dusko Lokin (1978/79), at least the latter song's intro; kind of makes sense, because at the time of her debut album's release, in 2008, one of the DJs at the local CHR radio station and the station that she made her debut as a professional singer was of Croatian descent herself- Sandra Klaric.

Also by Elise Estrada- her 2009/2010 single "One Last Time" sounds like Kenny Rogers' "The Gambler" (1978/79). Direct melody ripoff in the song's intro and chorus. (unsigned post by 207.102.59.253)

Here's one that Traveled thru the ages: pink pedal pushers by Carl Perkins begat blank generation by Richard hell begat stray cat strut which finalized in brain stew by Green Day

Telephone line by Eli inspired 21 guns by Green Day but all the young dudes by Mott came first

After 33 years it hit me today that I never knew love like this before was obviously the source for borderline by madonna and obviously since the same guy wrote em it's a no brainer

Let your love flow by the Bellamy bros inspired the chorus for pontoon by little big town but check out soundalike chorus on little know kiss song from 1974 called mainline

Stiletto by Billy Joel sounds just like rise by herb Albert and I only noticed it after buying 52nd street in 2016 although the tape was one of the first I bought and loved as a first grader in 1978

Video game music

What is the policy for discussing video-game music on this article? I see a couple of examples where one song in the comparison is from a video game (Hip Tanaka - Chill). What about alleged cryptomnesia between two video-game songs? Do we need to create a separate article for that? Eighty5cacao 10:13, 19 August 2010 (MST)

Yeah, I heard a StarTropics bass line on level 1 of Zoop for Super NES too. I'm not sure exactly in which direction I want to take the page, but I don't want video game examples to overwhelm examples from the U.S. pop charts; I want it to be accessible to non-gamers. Perhaps a categorization scheme might become apparent later. --Tepples 16:44, 19 August 2010 (MST)
I may start an informal list in my userspace, but initially it will focus on examples that can be supported by online videos, and it will be a long time before it is comprehensive enough to be mainspaced. Eighty5cacao 22:45, 20 August 2010 (MST)

When to include the month

To answer a question brought up in an edit summary: Ordinarily, only the year of a song's first publication is needed. It is helpful to add the month if the songs were first published in the same year or successive years (e.g. 2001 vs. 2002) to establish how likely it is that the writer of one song had heard the other. --Tepples 12:36, 24 August 2010 (MST)

Okay, thank you. I figured that out a few minutes after my edit... Eighty5cacao 15:41, 24 August 2010 (MST)

On second thought

Journey - Don't Stop Believin' vs. Hosanna! Music - Blessed Be the Lord (1992) when I went back to it, they weren't as similar as I thought, but I might be able to stretch it if I get time to make a juxtaposition. --Tepples 10:35, 5 September 2010 (MST)

This one's a stretch too: He's So Fine vs. My Sweet Lord vs. Grand Funk Railroad - Bad Time vs. The Four Seasons - Let's Hang On! --Tepples 17:21, 19 September 2010 (MST)

YT links that are not demos

Discussion moved to User talk:Eighty5cacao/Songs that sound alike (video games)#YT links that are not demos --Eighty5cacao 17:32, 3 October 2010 (MST)

That one's bogus

"Layla" and "Two Tickets to Paradise"? That one's bogus. -- Jim Yerrick 13:38, 25 December 2010 (MST)

Can you explain the problem in more detail so that Tepples can reevaluate this / provide any necessary supporting references? Eighty5cacao 16:47, 25 December 2010 (MST)
Administrivia: Why did the original post of this section get attributed to Sukey? --Eighty5cacao (talk) 03:49, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
A bug in older versions of User Merge would merge userid 0 (anonymous edits) to another user if the "merge from" user were misspelled (or copied and pasted with a parenthesis). So all anonymous edits before a certain date appear to have been merged. --Tepples (talk) 13:07, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

Creativity allowable in mashups

This could also have been posted to [[Template talk:Non-free stsa]] but I wasn't sure
I've noticed that your mashups tend to separate the two songs by stereo channels, with the minimum of editing necessary. What about mashups that require a greater degree of creative editing to adequately demonstrate the similarity? Is it acceptable for these to be uploaded to the wiki and given the {{non-free stsa}} template, provided that an adequate rationale is written? Or should they be preferentially uploaded elsewhere? (For examples of greater creativity, see certain examples which are currently linked on the STSA pages.) Does the wording of {{non-free stsa}} need to be adjusted? Eighty5cacao 17:59, 23 March 2011 (MST) (last edit 08:47, 24 March 2011 (MST))

There's a bit of creativity in some of my existing mash-ups. The one with "Dam Dariram" (not linked due to likely authorized reuse) and the one with "You Are What You Is" both adjust loop counts of one of the tracks. The latter also has a few moments where I fade one track out and the other to center to make a drum fill or other effect not clash. The one with "Friend Like Me" on the video game page is a cover of the older song using the newer song's sample bank. As long as it contains elements of both songs arranged in a way that illustrates the similarity, and as long as the rationale is plausible, it should be fine. --Tepples 11:00, 24 March 2011 (MST)

Just Dance TODO

Citations needed: I recall hearing that Just Dance 2 was at one point planned to include "Just Dance" (the Lady Gaga song), but this was changed at some point in development and I don't remember the exact reason. Eighty5cacao 21:53, 18 August 2011 (MST)

Relevance of lyrics

To what extent are lyrics and music-video contents relevant to this article? See for example the Linkin Park/Evanescence cases, as well as various notes and footnotes already on the article. Eighty5cacao 08:06, 25 August 2011 (MST)

They're not directly relevant to this article in particular, but I needed somewhere to stash things that had been brewing in my head. --Tepples 10:22, 25 August 2011 (MST)
So a new page should be created to handle similarities that are based more on lyrics or music videos than on melody? Eighty5cacao 14:09, 25 August 2011 (MST)

Define dubious

Regarding this edit summary, could you list the specific entries you consider dubious (and what specifically is wrong with each) so that I can drag any of mine back to the dump? Eighty5cacao 11:09, 16 October 2011 (MST)

I'll have to go through them again, but there were a few cases here and on (vg) where I couldn't even find what parts of the songs you were talking about. --Tepples 11:47, 16 October 2011 (MST)
In that case, please allow a little over 48 hours from now for me to provide more detailed explanations and do some cleanup myself. During this time, please don't remove any entries without talking to me first. (I can't guarantee a shorter time to resolve such issues because I will be somewhat busy with schoolwork.)
Some of my entries here (not on -vg) were based purely on Wikipedia information, and I did not make a sufficient attempt to evaluate the similarity for myself because I did not legally own a recording of one or more songs and/or could not find the song(s) on YT. If this is a reason for any particular complaint, please specify.Eighty5cacao 12:12, 16 October 2011 (MST) (last edit 12:31, 16 October 2011 (MST))
I don't own a copy of a lot of these myself either; I just have relatives who listen to oldies radio. I wasn't planning on removing anything so quickly, just making demos of the ones I do own (or can buy easily on Amazon). --Tepples 14:34, 16 October 2011 (MST)

What is AL0

No article with that exact title seems to exist on the English Wikipedia. Does the abbreviation refer to one of "Weird Al" Yankovic's albums, or something else entirely? Eighty5cacao 15:16, 19 October 2011 (MST)

Nothing to do with Weird Al, just the titles of some mixtapes I made when I was in college. AL0: Bigg Mixx was released partially on Bemanistyle (or DDREI? I forget which, it was so long ago); the others (AL1: Power Strangers and AL2: unsAOLved) have never been released. --Tepples 16:03, 19 October 2011 (MST)
I guess the lack of notability would explain why I had trouble searching for it. Thanks. Eighty5cacao 16:11, 19 October 2011 (MST)

Notepad++

Regarding this edit, why didn't you just do a find-and-replace in your browser? Did you have Notepad++ configured as an external editor? If so, why? (I'm just curious; I'm not trying to play tech support.) Eighty5cacao 19:55, 30 October 2011 (MST)

I cnp'd the article into N++ because I only know how to do find, not replace, within the text editor of Firefox. --Tepples 06:13, 31 October 2011 (MST)
Oh, whoops, that was stupid. I forgot that most browsers don't offer find and replace as built-in functionality. So I take it the answer is "no" as to my question about the external editor setting? Eighty5cacao 10:45, 31 October 2011 (MST)

MoS issue: Spaces after table delimiters

What is your justification for putting spaces after all the | delimiters? I would personally be inclined to do exactly the opposite (i.e., remove all the spaces). Sorry if there is some Wikipedia MoS page I failed to read. Eighty5cacao 13:10, 14 May 2012 (MST)

It was an excuse for a null edit to clarify my previous mistake (for which thank you for boldly correcting) for the record. I haven't seen any such MoS page either on whether or not to include a leading space in table cells. Wikipedia's help and project pages do it both ways: wikipedia:Help:Wikitable with spaces and wikipedia:Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Tables without. The guiding principle is consistency, as alluded to in "Example with no space" on tvtropes:TropeNameInJokes. --Tepples 13:18, 14 May 2012 (MST)
For the record, using action=raw on allthetropes:Trope Name Injokes shows that the absence of a space did not migrate successfully to AtT. --Eighty5cacao (talk) 18:50, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Yummy Yummy Yummy and Just What I Needed

Listen to the first few seconds of BOTH "Yummy Yummy Yummy" by Ohio Express and "Just What I Needed" by the Cars! --unsigned (72.51.233.88)

newbie

How about I do that --unsigned (91.207.8.246)

I have no idea what you mean by this. How about who does what? --Tepples 05:38, 4 September 2012 (MST)

Sweet and Tasty Rock and Roll

"Cherry Pie" by Warrant sounds like "Pour some sugar on me" by Def Leppard and Joan Jett's "I love rock and roll". This is similarity is mentioned on Cherry Pie's wikipedia page. --unsigned (99.250.117.117)

Powerhouse B

Wikipedia:Powerhouse (instrumental) states that the two parts of "Powerhouse" are traditionally called "Powerhouse A" (the "chase" music) and "Powerhouse B" (the "assembly line" music). But I guess I don't really need the "B" with the Notes column. --Tepples 18:05, 25 November 2012 (MST)

Yeah, I apologize for not reading the Wikipedia article. I probably wouldn't have been so bold had the Notes field not started with the word "Bass." Anyway, I decided to move the "B" inside the link. --Eighty5cacao 20:38, 25 November 2012 (MST)

A Few More

James - Laid & Ritchie Valens - La Bamba
Franz Ferdinand - Take Me Out & Led Zeppelin - Trampled Underfoot
Arctic Monkeys - Fluorescent Adolescent & Barenaked Ladies - Testing 1,2,3 --173.35.233.129 14:05, 7 January 2013 (CST)

Smash Mouth- Then the Morning comes VS The Animals- It's My Life (unsigned post by 67.213.218.72)

The Commodores- Night Shift & Fantasia - Lose to Win

Will.I.Am ft Nikki Minaj- "Check it out" VS The Buggles "Video Killed The Radio Star" (unsigned post by 80.174.205.95)

Here are some songs

Sly and the Family Stone's Thank You (Falettinme Be Mice Elf Agin) sounds like Wild Cherry's Play That Funky Music.

--ksd5, 15 January 2013.

Another Suggestion - Staying Alive in the Wall

Stayin' Alive In The Wall (Pink Floyd vs Bee Gees Mashup) by Wax Audio

Video by Wax Audio, A Mashup of Staying Alive by Beegees and The Wall by Pink Floyd

Please add this along with the others, You'll thank me later!

--Hamtaro126 (talk) 10:38, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Suggestions from Ulfalizer

Ulfalizer from #nesdev also submitted https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGuFn0RPgaE#t=6s vs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nl9WMIPzd6w#t=55 but I lack the time to verify. --Tepples (talk) 22:16, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

Another suggestion

Another one would be; True Love by pink and Popular by MIKA ft. Ariana Grande


suggestion "Fly me to the moon" and "Happy heart" (unsigned post by 78.33.222.173)

"Fly Me to the Moon" is on the list. --Tepples (talk) 01:26, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

suggestion Huey Lewis 'I want A New Drug' and Ray Parker Jr "Ghostbusters". (Settled in court), (unsigned post by 2601:18c:c700:e000:a535:36d3:df3a:bb26) dated 01 October 2015


suggestion: Snoop Dogg : Gangsta's Paradise and Gin Wigmore Nothing to No One (unsigned post by 2606:a000:6b4d:d600:c0a:3ac4:be0e:3361) dated 5 May 2016

Don't mean nothing

Sort of weak: Eagles - The Long Run vs. Richard Marx - Don't Mean Nothing. The middle eight of the latter could be dropped into the former and no one would notice. --Tepples (talk) 17:08, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

The long run is a rip on an old song covered by seger called trying to live my life without you which makes sense bc seger and Frey were friends.....also seger gh poached the chorus for shake down from a portion of those shoes by the eagles as well

In Your Eyes

A weaker match for "In Your Eyes" is "Sugar We're Going Down" by Fall Out Boy (the "YouTube from the closet" song). --Tepples (talk) 15:36, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

Not gonna happen

If "Not gonna happen" was meant to imply that a demo is impossible to distribute in the United States due to YouTube copyright enforcement, that should be clarified. Or was it a misplaced note about lyrics? --Eighty5cacao (talk) 21:37, 25 October 2015 (UTC)

It's not just YouTube. Prince is notorious for policing the copyright in his music even more diligently than other RIAA artists. He's known for "The Internet is completely over" and Lenz v. Universal. --Tepples (talk) 21:45, 25 October 2015 (UTC)

mostly the catchy guitar riff in the opening

Wild Eyes by The Stampeders and Can't Stop by the Red Hot Chili Peppers

I'm with someone like you

There's a third with the melody shape of the verses of "I'm With You" by Avril Lavigne and "Someone Like You" by Adele, played on radio sometime between the two, possibly by a male vocalist, but I can't put my finger on it at the moment. --Tepples (talk) 15:00, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

"I'don't care - I love it" from Icona Pop // "Numb" from U2

Definetely stolen from U2. :-) (unsigned post by 213.166.32.73) circa 18:33, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

They're close and they bite

What can be teased out of Def Leppard - Love Bites (1987) vs. Boy Meets Girl - Waiting for a Star to Fall (1988) vs. Elton John - Sacrifice (1989)? --Tepples (talk) 01:14, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

Just Thrice

Another group pending investigation:

--Tepples (talk) 03:38, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

Quick Add

Just a visitor to your site (and Slashdot user). I have one to add. A Thousand Years by Christina Perri vs. Twenty-Four by Switchfoot. Compare "Oh, Oh, I am the second man" and the rest of that section in Twenty-Four with "I have died everyday, waiting for you" in A Thousand Years. Identical melody for several lines. 24.107.33.116 21:48, 9 May 2017 (UTC)

I thought the killer queen was in the last movie

Dickie Jones (as Pinocchio) - I've Got No Strings (1940) vs. Queen - Killer Queen (1974) or perhaps my memory of the Super NES game adaptation is messing me up. --Tepples (talk) 00:03, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

Sweet Dreams

Rejected: Flight of the Bumblebee Written by Nikolai Rimsky-Korsakov (d. 1908) in 1900 vs. Patsy Cline - Sweet Dreams (Of You) (1963) Written by Don Gibson in 1955

The similarity is in the first couple measures of Cline's violin accompaniment, recorded less than a decade after "Flight of the Bumblebee" entered the public domain. (This was in 1957 under the then U.S. rule of 56 years after publication or 1959 under the Berne Convention rule of 50 years after the author's death.) Had this introduction been present in Gibson's 1955 recording, the pair might have qualified for this page. --Tepples (talk) 01:23, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

Suggestions by TheHappySpaceman

Passing on some possible matches from TheHappySpaceman (creator of Al and member of band Dark Matter):

  • Toto - "Africa" (1982) vs. Sia - "Cheap Thrills" (2016)
  • The Asphalt - "Tonight" (2005) vs. Daughtry - "Feels Like Tonight" (2008)
  • Queen - "We Will Rock You" (1977) vs. One Direction - "Rock Me" (2012)
  • Grease Cast - "Summer Nights" (1978) and Pat Benatar - "Hit Me with Your Best Shot" (1980) vs. One Direction - "What Makes You Beautiful" (2011)
  • The Who - "Baba O'Riley" (1971) vs. One Direction - "Best Song Ever" (2013)
  • Ed Sheeran - "Thinking Out Loud" (2014) vs. Marvin Gaye - "Let's Get it On" (1973)
  • Muse - "Time Is Running Out" (2003) vs. The Offspring - "You're Gonna Go Far, Kid" (2008)
  • Muse - "Uprising" (2009) vs. The Offspring - "Coming for You" (2015)
  • The Doors - "Roadhouse Blues" (1970) vs. Muse - "Psycho" (2015)--Muse's song uses the same riff for the verses.
  • Van Halen - "Panama" (1984) vs. Ratt - "Round and Round" (1984) (pre-chorus)

If I do add "Panama", I'll have to compare it to Glenn Frey - "The Heat Is On" (1984) (chorus). --Tepples (talk) 01:56, 4 October 2017 (UTC)