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==A couple random ones== The Rolling Stones, "Anybody Seen My Baby" vs. "Constant Craving" by k. d. lang (mentioned on the song's wikipedia page) "Africa" by Toto vs. "Fireflies" by Owl City == Video game music == What is the policy for discussing video-game music on this article? I see a couple of examples where ''one'' song in the comparison is from a video game (Hip Tanaka - [[wikipedia:Dr. Mario (video game)|Chill]]). What about alleged cryptomnesia between ''two'' video-game songs? Do we need to create a separate article for that? [[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] 10:13, 19 August 2010 (MST) :Yeah, I heard a StarTropics bass line on level 1 of Zoop for Super NES too. I'm not sure exactly in which direction I want to take the page, but I don't want video game examples to overwhelm examples from the U.S. pop charts; I want it to be accessible to non-gamers. Perhaps a categorization scheme might become apparent later. --[[User:Tepples|Tepples]] 16:44, 19 August 2010 (MST) ::I may start an informal list in my [[User:Eighty5cacao/Songs that sound alike (video games)|userspace]], but initially it will focus on examples that can be supported by online videos, and it will be a long time before it is comprehensive enough to be mainspaced. [[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] 22:45, 20 August 2010 (MST) == When to include the month == To answer a question brought up in an edit summary: Ordinarily, only the year of a song's first publication is needed. It is helpful to add the month if the songs were first published in the same year or successive years (e.g. 2001 vs. 2002) to establish how likely it is that the writer of one song had heard the other. --[[User:Tepples|Tepples]] 12:36, 24 August 2010 (MST) :Okay, thank you. I figured that out a few minutes after my edit... [[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] 15:41, 24 August 2010 (MST) == On second thought == Journey - Don't Stop Believin' vs. [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000008GNK/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B000008GNK&linkCode=as2&tag=pineig06-20 Hosanna! Music - Blessed Be the Lord] (1992) when I went back to it, they weren't as similar as I thought, but I might be able to stretch it if I get time to make a juxtaposition. --[[User:Tepples|Tepples]] 10:35, 5 September 2010 (MST) This one's a stretch too: He's So Fine vs. My Sweet Lord vs. Grand Funk Railroad - Bad Time vs. The Four Seasons - Let's Hang On! --[[User:Tepples|Tepples]] 17:21, 19 September 2010 (MST) == YT links that are not demos == ''Discussion moved to [[User talk:Eighty5cacao/Songs that sound alike (video games)#YT links that are not demos]] --[[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] 17:32, 3 October 2010 (MST)'' == That one's bogus == "Layla" and "Two Tickets to Paradise"? That one's bogus. -- Jim Yerrick 13:38, 25 December 2010 (MST) :Can you explain the problem in more detail so that Tepples can reevaluate this / provide any necessary supporting references? [[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] 16:47, 25 December 2010 (MST) ::Administrivia: Why did the original post of this section get attributed to Sukey? --[[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] ([[User talk:Eighty5cacao|talk]]) 03:49, 5 September 2013 (UTC) :::A bug in older versions of User Merge would merge userid 0 (anonymous edits) to another user if the "merge from" user were misspelled (or copied and pasted with a parenthesis). So all anonymous edits before a certain date appear to have been merged. --[[User:Tepples|Tepples]] ([[User talk:Tepples|talk]]) 13:07, 5 September 2013 (UTC) == Creativity allowable in mashups == <sup>''This could also have been posted to <nowiki>[[Template talk:Non-free stsa]]</nowiki> but I wasn't sure''</sup><br> I've noticed that [[Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:Non-free stsa|your mashups]] tend to separate the two songs by stereo channels, with the minimum of editing necessary. What about mashups that require a greater degree of creative editing to adequately demonstrate the similarity? Is it acceptable for these to be uploaded to the wiki and given the {{tl|non-free stsa}} template, provided that an adequate rationale is written? Or should they be preferentially uploaded elsewhere? (For examples of greater creativity, see [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rZz1S1r0_E certain] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2dPA2dCRNY examples] which are currently linked on the STSA pages.<!-- former is Lady Madonna vs. SMB3 Hammer Bros. and latter is Tik Tok vs. California Gurls -->) Does the wording of {{tl|non-free stsa}} need to be adjusted? [[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] 17:59, 23 March 2011 (MST) (last edit 08:47, 24 March 2011 (MST)) :There's a bit of creativity in some of my existing mash-ups. The one with "Dam Dariram" (not linked due to likely authorized reuse) and [[:File:STSA Sweet Home Alabama vs Low.ogg|the one with "You Are What You Is"]] both adjust loop counts of one of the tracks. The latter also has a few moments where I fade one track out and the other to center to make a drum fill or other effect not clash. [[:File:STSA Aladdin vs. Zoop.ogg|The one with "Friend Like Me"]] on the video game page is a cover of the older song using the newer song's sample bank. As long as it contains elements of both songs arranged in a way that illustrates the similarity, and as long as the rationale is plausible, it should be fine. --[[User:Tepples|Tepples]] 11:00, 24 March 2011 (MST) == Just Dance TODO == Citations needed: I recall hearing that ''Just Dance 2'' was at one point planned to include "Just Dance" (the Lady Gaga song), but this was changed at some point in development and I don't remember the exact reason. [[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] 21:53, 18 August 2011 (MST) == Relevance of lyrics == To what extent are lyrics and music-video contents relevant to this article? See for example the [http://pineight.com/mw/index.php?title=User:Eighty5cacao/misc/WMG_dump&diff=prev&oldid=4021 Linkin Park/Evanescence cases], as well as various notes and footnotes already on the article. [[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] 08:06, 25 August 2011 (MST) :They're not directly relevant to this article in particular, but I needed somewhere to stash things that had been brewing in my head. --[[User:Tepples|Tepples]] 10:22, 25 August 2011 (MST) ::So a new page should be created to handle similarities that are based more on lyrics or music videos than on melody? [[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] 14:09, 25 August 2011 (MST) == Define dubious == Regarding [http://pineight.com/mw/index.php?title=Songs_that_sound_alike&diff=4548&oldid=4545 this edit summary], could you list the specific entries you consider dubious (and what specifically is wrong with each) so that I can drag any of mine back to [[User:Eighty5cacao/misc/Songs that sound alike (investigation needed)|the dump]]? [[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] 11:09, 16 October 2011 (MST) :I'll have to go through them again, but there were a few cases here and on (vg) where I couldn't even find what parts of the songs you were talking about. --[[User:Tepples|Tepples]] 11:47, 16 October 2011 (MST) ::In that case, please allow a little over 48 hours from now for me to provide more detailed explanations and do some cleanup myself. During this time, please don't remove any entries without [[User talk:Eighty5cacao|talking to me]] first. (I can't guarantee a shorter time to resolve such issues because I will be somewhat busy with schoolwork.) ::Some of my entries here (not on -vg) were based purely on Wikipedia information, and I did not make a sufficient attempt to evaluate the similarity for myself because I did not legally own a recording of one or more songs and/or could not find the song(s) on YT. If this is a reason for any particular complaint, please specify.[[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] 12:12, 16 October 2011 (MST) (last edit 12:31, 16 October 2011 (MST)) :::I don't own a copy of a lot of these myself either; I just have relatives who listen to oldies radio. I wasn't planning on removing anything so quickly, just making demos of the ones I do own (or can buy easily on Amazon). --[[User:Tepples|Tepples]] 14:34, 16 October 2011 (MST) == What is AL0 == No article with that exact title seems to exist on the English Wikipedia. Does the abbreviation refer to [[wikipedia:"Weird Al" Yankovic discography|one of "Weird Al" Yankovic's albums]], or something else entirely? [[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] 15:16, 19 October 2011 (MST) :Nothing to do with Weird Al, just the titles of some mixtapes I made when I was in college. ''AL0: Bigg Mixx'' was released partially on Bemanistyle (or DDREI? I forget which, it was so long ago); the others (''AL1: Power Strangers'' and ''AL2: unsAOLved'') have never been released. --[[User:Tepples|Tepples]] 16:03, 19 October 2011 (MST) ::I guess the lack of notability would explain why I had trouble searching for it. Thanks. [[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] 16:11, 19 October 2011 (MST) == Notepad++ == Regarding [http://pineight.com/mw/index.php?title=Songs_that_sound_alike&diff=4667&oldid=4666 this edit], why didn't you just do a find-and-replace in your browser? Did you have Notepad++ configured as an [[mediawikiwiki:Manual:External editors|external editor]]? If so, why? (I'm just curious; I'm not trying to play tech support.) [[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] 19:55, 30 October 2011 (MST) :I cnp'd the article into N++ because I only know how to do find, not replace, within the text editor of Firefox. --[[User:Tepples|Tepples]] 06:13, 31 October 2011 (MST) ::Oh, whoops, that was stupid. I forgot that most browsers don't offer find <u>and replace</u> as built-in functionality. So I take it the answer is "no" as to my question about the external editor setting? [[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] 10:45, 31 October 2011 (MST) == MoS issue: Spaces after table delimiters == What is your justification for putting spaces after all the <code>|</code> delimiters? I would personally be inclined to do exactly the opposite (i.e., remove all the spaces). Sorry if there is some Wikipedia MoS page I failed to read. [[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] 13:10, 14 May 2012 (MST) :It was an excuse for a null edit to clarify my previous mistake (for which thank you for boldly correcting) for the record. I haven't seen any such MoS page either on whether or not to include a leading space in table cells. Wikipedia's help and project pages do it both ways: [[wikipedia:Help:Wikitable]] with spaces and [[wikipedia:Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Tables]] without. The guiding principle is consistency, as alluded to in "Example with no space" on [[trope:TropeNameInJokes]]. --[[User:Tepples|Tepples]] 13:18, 14 May 2012 (MST) == Yummy Yummy Yummy and Just What I Needed == Listen to the first few seconds of BOTH "Yummy Yummy Yummy" by Ohio Express and "Just What I Needed" by the Cars! --''unsigned ([[Special:Contributions/72.51.233.88|72.51.233.88]])'' == newbie == How about I do that --''unsigned ([[Special:Contributions/91.207.8.246|91.207.8.246]])'' :I have no idea what you mean by this. How about who does what? --[[User:Tepples|Tepples]] 05:38, 4 September 2012 (MST) == Sweet and Tasty Rock and Roll == "Cherry Pie" by Warrant sounds like "Pour some sugar on me" by Def Leppard and Joan Jett's "I love rock and roll". This is similarity is mentioned on Cherry Pie's wikipedia page. --''unsigned ([[Special:Contributions/99.250.117.117|99.250.117.117]])'' == Powerhouse B == [[Wikipedia:Powerhouse (instrumental)]] states that the two parts of "Powerhouse" are traditionally called "Powerhouse A" (the "chase" music) and "Powerhouse B" (the "assembly line" music). But I guess I don't really need the "B" with the Notes column. --[[User:Tepples|Tepples]] 18:05, 25 November 2012 (MST) :Yeah, I apologize for not reading the Wikipedia article<!-- I was afraid that I would see a "You have new messages" bar pointing to a message about the Tor node being blocked... -->. I probably wouldn't have been so bold had the Notes field not started with the word "Bass." Anyway, I decided to move the "B" inside the link. --[[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] 20:38, 25 November 2012 (MST) == A Few More == James - Laid & Ritchie Valens - La Bamba <br />Franz Ferdinand - Take Me Out & Led Zeppelin - Trampled Underfoot <br />Arctic Monkeys - Fluorescent Adolescent & Barenaked Ladies - Testing 1,2,3 --[[Special:Contributions/173.35.233.129|173.35.233.129]] 14:05, 7 January 2013 (CST) Smash Mouth- Then the Morning comes VS The Animals- It's My Life {{unsigned|67.213.218.72}} == Here are some songs == Sly and the Family Stone's [[wikipedia:Thank You (Falettinme Be Mice Elf Agin)|Thank You (Falettinme Be Mice Elf Agin)]] sounds like Wild Cherry's [[wikipedia:Play That Funky Music|Play That Funky Music]]. --[[wikipedia:user:ksd5|ksd5]], 15 January 2013. == Another Suggestion - Staying Alive in the Wall == [//www.youtube.com/watch?v=U13xOvDa19U&list=FLLx053rWZxCiYWsBETgdKrQ Stayin' Alive In The Wall (Pink Floyd vs Bee Gees Mashup) by Wax Audio] Video by Wax Audio, A Mashup of Staying Alive by Beegees and The Wall by Pink Floyd Please add this along with the others, You'll thank me later! --[[User:Hamtaro126|Hamtaro126]] ([[User talk:Hamtaro126|talk]]) 10:38, 4 April 2013 (UTC) == Suggestions from Ulfalizer == Ulfalizer from #nesdev also submitted http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGuFn0RPgaE#t=6s vs. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nl9WMIPzd6w#t=55 but I lack the time to verify. --[[User:Tepples|Tepples]] ([[User talk:Tepples|talk]]) 22:16, 19 April 2013 (UTC) == Popular online clothing retailer,Presents style forward clothing,Trends released clothes goods for sale == January 9, 2014, Miss International Brand Contest 2014 (Globe) Finals held in eye-catching style capital of Shenzhen. 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==A couple random ones== The Rolling Stones, "Anybody Seen My Baby" vs. "Constant Craving" by k. d. lang (mentioned on the song's wikipedia page) "Africa" by Toto vs. "Fireflies" by Owl City == Video game music == What is the policy for discussing video-game music on this article? I see a couple of examples where ''one'' song in the comparison is from a video game (Hip Tanaka - [[wikipedia:Dr. Mario (video game)|Chill]]). What about alleged cryptomnesia between ''two'' video-game songs? Do we need to create a separate article for that? [[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] 10:13, 19 August 2010 (MST) :Yeah, I heard a StarTropics bass line on level 1 of Zoop for Super NES too. I'm not sure exactly in which direction I want to take the page, but I don't want video game examples to overwhelm examples from the U.S. pop charts; I want it to be accessible to non-gamers. Perhaps a categorization scheme might become apparent later. --[[User:Tepples|Tepples]] 16:44, 19 August 2010 (MST) ::I may start an informal list in my [[User:Eighty5cacao/Songs that sound alike (video games)|userspace]], but initially it will focus on examples that can be supported by online videos, and it will be a long time before it is comprehensive enough to be mainspaced. [[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] 22:45, 20 August 2010 (MST) == When to include the month == To answer a question brought up in an edit summary: Ordinarily, only the year of a song's first publication is needed. It is helpful to add the month if the songs were first published in the same year or successive years (e.g. 2001 vs. 2002) to establish how likely it is that the writer of one song had heard the other. --[[User:Tepples|Tepples]] 12:36, 24 August 2010 (MST) :Okay, thank you. I figured that out a few minutes after my edit... [[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] 15:41, 24 August 2010 (MST) == On second thought == Journey - Don't Stop Believin' vs. [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000008GNK/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B000008GNK&linkCode=as2&tag=pineig06-20 Hosanna! Music - Blessed Be the Lord] (1992) when I went back to it, they weren't as similar as I thought, but I might be able to stretch it if I get time to make a juxtaposition. --[[User:Tepples|Tepples]] 10:35, 5 September 2010 (MST) This one's a stretch too: He's So Fine vs. My Sweet Lord vs. Grand Funk Railroad - Bad Time vs. The Four Seasons - Let's Hang On! --[[User:Tepples|Tepples]] 17:21, 19 September 2010 (MST) == YT links that are not demos == ''Discussion moved to [[User talk:Eighty5cacao/Songs that sound alike (video games)#YT links that are not demos]] --[[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] 17:32, 3 October 2010 (MST)'' == That one's bogus == "Layla" and "Two Tickets to Paradise"? That one's bogus. -- Jim Yerrick 13:38, 25 December 2010 (MST) :Can you explain the problem in more detail so that Tepples can reevaluate this / provide any necessary supporting references? [[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] 16:47, 25 December 2010 (MST) ::Administrivia: Why did the original post of this section get attributed to Sukey? --[[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] ([[User talk:Eighty5cacao|talk]]) 03:49, 5 September 2013 (UTC) :::A bug in older versions of User Merge would merge userid 0 (anonymous edits) to another user if the "merge from" user were misspelled (or copied and pasted with a parenthesis). So all anonymous edits before a certain date appear to have been merged. --[[User:Tepples|Tepples]] ([[User talk:Tepples|talk]]) 13:07, 5 September 2013 (UTC) == Creativity allowable in mashups == <sup>''This could also have been posted to <nowiki>[[Template talk:Non-free stsa]]</nowiki> but I wasn't sure''</sup><br> I've noticed that [[Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:Non-free stsa|your mashups]] tend to separate the two songs by stereo channels, with the minimum of editing necessary. What about mashups that require a greater degree of creative editing to adequately demonstrate the similarity? Is it acceptable for these to be uploaded to the wiki and given the {{tl|non-free stsa}} template, provided that an adequate rationale is written? Or should they be preferentially uploaded elsewhere? (For examples of greater creativity, see [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rZz1S1r0_E certain] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2dPA2dCRNY examples] which are currently linked on the STSA pages.<!-- former is Lady Madonna vs. SMB3 Hammer Bros. and latter is Tik Tok vs. California Gurls -->) Does the wording of {{tl|non-free stsa}} need to be adjusted? [[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] 17:59, 23 March 2011 (MST) (last edit 08:47, 24 March 2011 (MST)) :There's a bit of creativity in some of my existing mash-ups. The one with "Dam Dariram" (not linked due to likely authorized reuse) and [[:File:STSA Sweet Home Alabama vs Low.ogg|the one with "You Are What You Is"]] both adjust loop counts of one of the tracks. The latter also has a few moments where I fade one track out and the other to center to make a drum fill or other effect not clash. [[:File:STSA Aladdin vs. Zoop.ogg|The one with "Friend Like Me"]] on the video game page is a cover of the older song using the newer song's sample bank. As long as it contains elements of both songs arranged in a way that illustrates the similarity, and as long as the rationale is plausible, it should be fine. --[[User:Tepples|Tepples]] 11:00, 24 March 2011 (MST) == Just Dance TODO == Citations needed: I recall hearing that ''Just Dance 2'' was at one point planned to include "Just Dance" (the Lady Gaga song), but this was changed at some point in development and I don't remember the exact reason. [[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] 21:53, 18 August 2011 (MST) == Relevance of lyrics == To what extent are lyrics and music-video contents relevant to this article? See for example the [http://pineight.com/mw/index.php?title=User:Eighty5cacao/misc/WMG_dump&diff=prev&oldid=4021 Linkin Park/Evanescence cases], as well as various notes and footnotes already on the article. [[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] 08:06, 25 August 2011 (MST) :They're not directly relevant to this article in particular, but I needed somewhere to stash things that had been brewing in my head. --[[User:Tepples|Tepples]] 10:22, 25 August 2011 (MST) ::So a new page should be created to handle similarities that are based more on lyrics or music videos than on melody? [[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] 14:09, 25 August 2011 (MST) == Define dubious == Regarding [http://pineight.com/mw/index.php?title=Songs_that_sound_alike&diff=4548&oldid=4545 this edit summary], could you list the specific entries you consider dubious (and what specifically is wrong with each) so that I can drag any of mine back to [[User:Eighty5cacao/misc/Songs that sound alike (investigation needed)|the dump]]? [[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] 11:09, 16 October 2011 (MST) :I'll have to go through them again, but there were a few cases here and on (vg) where I couldn't even find what parts of the songs you were talking about. --[[User:Tepples|Tepples]] 11:47, 16 October 2011 (MST) ::In that case, please allow a little over 48 hours from now for me to provide more detailed explanations and do some cleanup myself. During this time, please don't remove any entries without [[User talk:Eighty5cacao|talking to me]] first. (I can't guarantee a shorter time to resolve such issues because I will be somewhat busy with schoolwork.) ::Some of my entries here (not on -vg) were based purely on Wikipedia information, and I did not make a sufficient attempt to evaluate the similarity for myself because I did not legally own a recording of one or more songs and/or could not find the song(s) on YT. If this is a reason for any particular complaint, please specify.[[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] 12:12, 16 October 2011 (MST) (last edit 12:31, 16 October 2011 (MST)) :::I don't own a copy of a lot of these myself either; I just have relatives who listen to oldies radio. I wasn't planning on removing anything so quickly, just making demos of the ones I do own (or can buy easily on Amazon). --[[User:Tepples|Tepples]] 14:34, 16 October 2011 (MST) == What is AL0 == No article with that exact title seems to exist on the English Wikipedia. Does the abbreviation refer to [[wikipedia:"Weird Al" Yankovic discography|one of "Weird Al" Yankovic's albums]], or something else entirely? [[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] 15:16, 19 October 2011 (MST) :Nothing to do with Weird Al, just the titles of some mixtapes I made when I was in college. ''AL0: Bigg Mixx'' was released partially on Bemanistyle (or DDREI? I forget which, it was so long ago); the others (''AL1: Power Strangers'' and ''AL2: unsAOLved'') have never been released. --[[User:Tepples|Tepples]] 16:03, 19 October 2011 (MST) ::I guess the lack of notability would explain why I had trouble searching for it. Thanks. [[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] 16:11, 19 October 2011 (MST) == Notepad++ == Regarding [http://pineight.com/mw/index.php?title=Songs_that_sound_alike&diff=4667&oldid=4666 this edit], why didn't you just do a find-and-replace in your browser? Did you have Notepad++ configured as an [[mediawikiwiki:Manual:External editors|external editor]]? If so, why? (I'm just curious; I'm not trying to play tech support.) [[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] 19:55, 30 October 2011 (MST) :I cnp'd the article into N++ because I only know how to do find, not replace, within the text editor of Firefox. --[[User:Tepples|Tepples]] 06:13, 31 October 2011 (MST) ::Oh, whoops, that was stupid. I forgot that most browsers don't offer find <u>and replace</u> as built-in functionality. So I take it the answer is "no" as to my question about the external editor setting? [[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] 10:45, 31 October 2011 (MST) == MoS issue: Spaces after table delimiters == What is your justification for putting spaces after all the <code>|</code> delimiters? I would personally be inclined to do exactly the opposite (i.e., remove all the spaces). Sorry if there is some Wikipedia MoS page I failed to read. [[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] 13:10, 14 May 2012 (MST) :It was an excuse for a null edit to clarify my previous mistake (for which thank you for boldly correcting) for the record. I haven't seen any such MoS page either on whether or not to include a leading space in table cells. Wikipedia's help and project pages do it both ways: [[wikipedia:Help:Wikitable]] with spaces and [[wikipedia:Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Tables]] without. The guiding principle is consistency, as alluded to in "Example with no space" on [[trope:TropeNameInJokes]]. --[[User:Tepples|Tepples]] 13:18, 14 May 2012 (MST) == Yummy Yummy Yummy and Just What I Needed == Listen to the first few seconds of BOTH "Yummy Yummy Yummy" by Ohio Express and "Just What I Needed" by the Cars! --''unsigned ([[Special:Contributions/72.51.233.88|72.51.233.88]])'' == newbie == How about I do that --''unsigned ([[Special:Contributions/91.207.8.246|91.207.8.246]])'' :I have no idea what you mean by this. How about who does what? --[[User:Tepples|Tepples]] 05:38, 4 September 2012 (MST) == Sweet and Tasty Rock and Roll == "Cherry Pie" by Warrant sounds like "Pour some sugar on me" by Def Leppard and Joan Jett's "I love rock and roll". This is similarity is mentioned on Cherry Pie's wikipedia page. --''unsigned ([[Special:Contributions/99.250.117.117|99.250.117.117]])'' == Powerhouse B == [[Wikipedia:Powerhouse (instrumental)]] states that the two parts of "Powerhouse" are traditionally called "Powerhouse A" (the "chase" music) and "Powerhouse B" (the "assembly line" music). But I guess I don't really need the "B" with the Notes column. --[[User:Tepples|Tepples]] 18:05, 25 November 2012 (MST) :Yeah, I apologize for not reading the Wikipedia article<!-- I was afraid that I would see a "You have new messages" bar pointing to a message about the Tor node being blocked... -->. I probably wouldn't have been so bold had the Notes field not started with the word "Bass." Anyway, I decided to move the "B" inside the link. --[[User:Eighty5cacao|Eighty5cacao]] 20:38, 25 November 2012 (MST) == A Few More == James - Laid & Ritchie Valens - La Bamba <br />Franz Ferdinand - Take Me Out & Led Zeppelin - Trampled Underfoot <br />Arctic Monkeys - Fluorescent Adolescent & Barenaked Ladies - Testing 1,2,3 --[[Special:Contributions/173.35.233.129|173.35.233.129]] 14:05, 7 January 2013 (CST) Smash Mouth- Then the Morning comes VS The Animals- It's My Life {{unsigned|67.213.218.72}} == Here are some songs == Sly and the Family Stone's [[wikipedia:Thank You (Falettinme Be Mice Elf Agin)|Thank You (Falettinme Be Mice Elf Agin)]] sounds like Wild Cherry's [[wikipedia:Play That Funky Music|Play That Funky Music]]. --[[wikipedia:user:ksd5|ksd5]], 15 January 2013. == Another Suggestion - Staying Alive in the Wall == [//www.youtube.com/watch?v=U13xOvDa19U&list=FLLx053rWZxCiYWsBETgdKrQ Stayin' Alive In The Wall (Pink Floyd vs Bee Gees Mashup) by Wax Audio] Video by Wax Audio, A Mashup of Staying Alive by Beegees and The Wall by Pink Floyd Please add this along with the others, You'll thank me later! --[[User:Hamtaro126|Hamtaro126]] ([[User talk:Hamtaro126|talk]]) 10:38, 4 April 2013 (UTC) == Suggestions from Ulfalizer == Ulfalizer from #nesdev also submitted http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGuFn0RPgaE#t=6s vs. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nl9WMIPzd6w#t=55 but I lack the time to verify. --[[User:Tepples|Tepples]] ([[User talk:Tepples|talk]]) 22:16, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
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<div class="mw-parser-output"><div id="toc" class="toc"><div class="toctitle"><h2>Contents</h2></div> <ul> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-1"><a href="#A_couple_random_ones"><span class="tocnumber">1</span> <span class="toctext">A couple random ones</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-2"><a href="#Video_game_music"><span class="tocnumber">2</span> <span class="toctext">Video game music</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-3"><a href="#When_to_include_the_month"><span class="tocnumber">3</span> <span class="toctext">When to include the month</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-4"><a href="#On_second_thought"><span class="tocnumber">4</span> <span class="toctext">On second thought</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-5"><a href="#YT_links_that_are_not_demos"><span class="tocnumber">5</span> <span class="toctext">YT links that are not demos</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-6"><a href="#That_one.27s_bogus"><span class="tocnumber">6</span> <span class="toctext">That one's bogus</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-7"><a href="#Creativity_allowable_in_mashups"><span class="tocnumber">7</span> <span class="toctext">Creativity allowable in mashups</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-8"><a href="#Just_Dance_TODO"><span class="tocnumber">8</span> <span class="toctext">Just Dance TODO</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-9"><a href="#Relevance_of_lyrics"><span class="tocnumber">9</span> <span class="toctext">Relevance of lyrics</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-10"><a href="#Define_dubious"><span class="tocnumber">10</span> <span class="toctext">Define dubious</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-11"><a href="#What_is_AL0"><span class="tocnumber">11</span> <span class="toctext">What is AL0</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-12"><a href="#Notepad.2B.2B"><span class="tocnumber">12</span> <span class="toctext">Notepad++</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-13"><a href="#MoS_issue:_Spaces_after_table_delimiters"><span class="tocnumber">13</span> <span class="toctext">MoS issue: Spaces after table delimiters</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-14"><a href="#Yummy_Yummy_Yummy_and_Just_What_I_Needed"><span class="tocnumber">14</span> <span class="toctext">Yummy Yummy Yummy and Just What I Needed</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-15"><a href="#newbie"><span class="tocnumber">15</span> <span class="toctext">newbie</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-16"><a href="#Sweet_and_Tasty_Rock_and_Roll"><span class="tocnumber">16</span> <span class="toctext">Sweet and Tasty Rock and Roll</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-17"><a href="#Powerhouse_B"><span class="tocnumber">17</span> <span class="toctext">Powerhouse B</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-18"><a href="#A_Few_More"><span class="tocnumber">18</span> <span class="toctext">A Few More</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-19"><a href="#Here_are_some_songs"><span class="tocnumber">19</span> <span class="toctext">Here are some songs</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-20"><a href="#Another_Suggestion_-_Staying_Alive_in_the_Wall"><span class="tocnumber">20</span> <span class="toctext">Another Suggestion - Staying Alive in the Wall</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-21"><a href="#Suggestions_from_Ulfalizer"><span class="tocnumber">21</span> <span class="toctext">Suggestions from Ulfalizer</span></a></li> </ul> </div> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="A_couple_random_ones">A couple random ones</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/mw/index.php?title=Talk:Songs_that_sound_alike&amp;action=edit&amp;section=1" title="Edit section: A couple random ones">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2> <p>The Rolling Stones, "Anybody Seen My Baby" vs. "Constant Craving" by k. d. lang (mentioned on the song's wikipedia page) </p><p>"Africa" by Toto vs. "Fireflies" by Owl City </p><p><br /> </p> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Video_game_music">Video game music</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/mw/index.php?title=Talk:Songs_that_sound_alike&amp;action=edit&amp;section=2" title="Edit section: Video game music">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2> <p>What is the policy for discussing video-game music on this article? I see a couple of examples where <i>one</i> song in the comparison is from a video game (Hip Tanaka - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._Mario_(video_game)" class="extiw" title="wikipedia:Dr. Mario (video game)">Chill</a>). What about alleged cryptomnesia between <i>two</i> video-game songs? Do we need to create a separate article for that? <a href="/mw/index.php?title=User:Eighty5cacao" title="User:Eighty5cacao">Eighty5cacao</a> 10:13, 19 August 2010 (MST) </p> <dl><dd>Yeah, I heard a StarTropics bass line on level 1 of Zoop for Super NES too. I'm not sure exactly in which direction I want to take the page, but I don't want video game examples to overwhelm examples from the U.S. pop charts; I want it to be accessible to non-gamers. Perhaps a categorization scheme might become apparent later. --<a href="/mw/index.php?title=User:Tepples" title="User:Tepples">Tepples</a> 16:44, 19 August 2010 (MST) <dl><dd>I may start an informal list in my <a href="/mw/index.php?title=User:Eighty5cacao/Songs_that_sound_alike_(video_games)" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Eighty5cacao/Songs that sound alike (video games)">userspace</a>, but initially it will focus on examples that can be supported by online videos, and it will be a long time before it is comprehensive enough to be mainspaced. <a href="/mw/index.php?title=User:Eighty5cacao" title="User:Eighty5cacao">Eighty5cacao</a> 22:45, 20 August 2010 (MST)</dd></dl></dd></dl> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="When_to_include_the_month">When to include the month</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/mw/index.php?title=Talk:Songs_that_sound_alike&amp;action=edit&amp;section=3" title="Edit section: When to include the month">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2> <p>To answer a question brought up in an edit summary: Ordinarily, only the year of a song's first publication is needed. It is helpful to add the month if the songs were first published in the same year or successive years (e.g. 2001 vs. 2002) to establish how likely it is that the writer of one song had heard the other. --<a href="/mw/index.php?title=User:Tepples" title="User:Tepples">Tepples</a> 12:36, 24 August 2010 (MST) </p> <dl><dd>Okay, thank you. I figured that out a few minutes after my edit... <a href="/mw/index.php?title=User:Eighty5cacao" title="User:Eighty5cacao">Eighty5cacao</a> 15:41, 24 August 2010 (MST)</dd></dl> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="On_second_thought">On second thought</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/mw/index.php?title=Talk:Songs_that_sound_alike&amp;action=edit&amp;section=4" title="Edit section: On second thought">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2> <p>Journey - Don't Stop Believin' vs. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000008GNK/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=B000008GNK&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=pineig06-20">Hosanna! Music - Blessed Be the Lord</a> (1992) when I went back to it, they weren't as similar as I thought, but I might be able to stretch it if I get time to make a juxtaposition. --<a href="/mw/index.php?title=User:Tepples" title="User:Tepples">Tepples</a> 10:35, 5 September 2010 (MST) </p><p>This one's a stretch too: He's So Fine vs. My Sweet Lord vs. Grand Funk Railroad - Bad Time vs. The Four Seasons - Let's Hang On! --<a href="/mw/index.php?title=User:Tepples" title="User:Tepples">Tepples</a> 17:21, 19 September 2010 (MST) </p> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="YT_links_that_are_not_demos">YT links that are not demos</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/mw/index.php?title=Talk:Songs_that_sound_alike&amp;action=edit&amp;section=5" title="Edit section: YT links that are not demos">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2> <p><i>Discussion moved to <a href="/mw/index.php?title=User_talk:Eighty5cacao/Songs_that_sound_alike_(video_games)#YT_links_that_are_not_demos" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Eighty5cacao/Songs that sound alike (video games)">User talk:Eighty5cacao/Songs that sound alike (video games)#YT links that are not demos</a> --<a href="/mw/index.php?title=User:Eighty5cacao" title="User:Eighty5cacao">Eighty5cacao</a> 17:32, 3 October 2010 (MST)</i> </p> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="That_one.27s_bogus">That one's bogus</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/mw/index.php?title=Talk:Songs_that_sound_alike&amp;action=edit&amp;section=6" title="Edit section: That one&#039;s bogus">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2> <p>"Layla" and "Two Tickets to Paradise"? That one's bogus. -- Jim Yerrick 13:38, 25 December 2010 (MST) </p> <dl><dd>Can you explain the problem in more detail so that Tepples can reevaluate this / provide any necessary supporting references? <a href="/mw/index.php?title=User:Eighty5cacao" title="User:Eighty5cacao">Eighty5cacao</a> 16:47, 25 December 2010 (MST) <dl><dd>Administrivia: Why did the original post of this section get attributed to Sukey? --<a href="/mw/index.php?title=User:Eighty5cacao" title="User:Eighty5cacao">Eighty5cacao</a> (<a href="/mw/index.php?title=User_talk:Eighty5cacao" title="User talk:Eighty5cacao">talk</a>) 03:49, 5 September 2013 (UTC) <dl><dd>A bug in older versions of User Merge would merge userid 0 (anonymous edits) to another user if the "merge from" user were misspelled (or copied and pasted with a parenthesis). So all anonymous edits before a certain date appear to have been merged. --<a href="/mw/index.php?title=User:Tepples" title="User:Tepples">Tepples</a> (<a href="/mw/index.php?title=User_talk:Tepples" title="User talk:Tepples">talk</a>) 13:07, 5 September 2013 (UTC)</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Creativity_allowable_in_mashups">Creativity allowable in mashups</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/mw/index.php?title=Talk:Songs_that_sound_alike&amp;action=edit&amp;section=7" title="Edit section: Creativity allowable in mashups">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2> <p><sup><i>This could also have been posted to [[Template talk:Non-free stsa]] but I wasn't sure</i></sup><br /> I've noticed that <a href="/mw/index.php?title=Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Non-free_stsa" title="Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Non-free stsa">your mashups</a> tend to separate the two songs by stereo channels, with the minimum of editing necessary. What about mashups that require a greater degree of creative editing to adequately demonstrate the similarity? Is it acceptable for these to be uploaded to the wiki and given the <code>{{<a href="/mw/index.php?title=Template:Non-free_stsa" title="Template:Non-free stsa">non-free stsa</a>}}</code> template, provided that an adequate rationale is written? Or should they be preferentially uploaded elsewhere? (For examples of greater creativity, see <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rZz1S1r0_E">certain</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2dPA2dCRNY">examples</a> which are currently linked on the STSA pages.) Does the wording of <code>{{<a href="/mw/index.php?title=Template:Non-free_stsa" title="Template:Non-free stsa">non-free stsa</a>}}</code> need to be adjusted? <a href="/mw/index.php?title=User:Eighty5cacao" title="User:Eighty5cacao">Eighty5cacao</a> 17:59, 23 March 2011 (MST) (last edit 08:47, 24 March 2011 (MST)) </p> <dl><dd>There's a bit of creativity in some of my existing mash-ups. The one with "Dam Dariram" (not linked due to likely authorized reuse) and <a href="/mw/index.php?title=File:STSA_Sweet_Home_Alabama_vs_Low.ogg" title="File:STSA Sweet Home Alabama vs Low.ogg">the one with "You Are What You Is"</a> both adjust loop counts of one of the tracks. The latter also has a few moments where I fade one track out and the other to center to make a drum fill or other effect not clash. <a href="/mw/index.php?title=File:STSA_Aladdin_vs._Zoop.ogg" title="File:STSA Aladdin vs. Zoop.ogg">The one with "Friend Like Me"</a> on the video game page is a cover of the older song using the newer song's sample bank. As long as it contains elements of both songs arranged in a way that illustrates the similarity, and as long as the rationale is plausible, it should be fine. --<a href="/mw/index.php?title=User:Tepples" title="User:Tepples">Tepples</a> 11:00, 24 March 2011 (MST)</dd></dl> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Just_Dance_TODO">Just Dance TODO</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/mw/index.php?title=Talk:Songs_that_sound_alike&amp;action=edit&amp;section=8" title="Edit section: Just Dance TODO">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2> <p>Citations needed: I recall hearing that <i>Just Dance 2</i> was at one point planned to include "Just Dance" (the Lady Gaga song), but this was changed at some point in development and I don't remember the exact reason. <a href="/mw/index.php?title=User:Eighty5cacao" title="User:Eighty5cacao">Eighty5cacao</a> 21:53, 18 August 2011 (MST) </p> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Relevance_of_lyrics">Relevance of lyrics</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/mw/index.php?title=Talk:Songs_that_sound_alike&amp;action=edit&amp;section=9" title="Edit section: Relevance of lyrics">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2> <p>To what extent are lyrics and music-video contents relevant to this article? See for example the <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://pineight.com/mw/index.php?title=User:Eighty5cacao/misc/WMG_dump&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=4021">Linkin Park/Evanescence cases</a>, as well as various notes and footnotes already on the article. <a href="/mw/index.php?title=User:Eighty5cacao" title="User:Eighty5cacao">Eighty5cacao</a> 08:06, 25 August 2011 (MST) </p> <dl><dd>They're not directly relevant to this article in particular, but I needed somewhere to stash things that had been brewing in my head. --<a href="/mw/index.php?title=User:Tepples" title="User:Tepples">Tepples</a> 10:22, 25 August 2011 (MST) <dl><dd>So a new page should be created to handle similarities that are based more on lyrics or music videos than on melody? <a href="/mw/index.php?title=User:Eighty5cacao" title="User:Eighty5cacao">Eighty5cacao</a> 14:09, 25 August 2011 (MST)</dd></dl></dd></dl> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Define_dubious">Define dubious</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/mw/index.php?title=Talk:Songs_that_sound_alike&amp;action=edit&amp;section=10" title="Edit section: Define dubious">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2> <p>Regarding <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://pineight.com/mw/index.php?title=Songs_that_sound_alike&amp;diff=4548&amp;oldid=4545">this edit summary</a>, could you list the specific entries you consider dubious (and what specifically is wrong with each) so that I can drag any of mine back to <a href="/mw/index.php?title=User:Eighty5cacao/misc/Songs_that_sound_alike_(investigation_needed)" title="User:Eighty5cacao/misc/Songs that sound alike (investigation needed)">the dump</a>? <a href="/mw/index.php?title=User:Eighty5cacao" title="User:Eighty5cacao">Eighty5cacao</a> 11:09, 16 October 2011 (MST) </p> <dl><dd>I'll have to go through them again, but there were a few cases here and on (vg) where I couldn't even find what parts of the songs you were talking about. --<a href="/mw/index.php?title=User:Tepples" title="User:Tepples">Tepples</a> 11:47, 16 October 2011 (MST) <dl><dd>In that case, please allow a little over 48 hours from now for me to provide more detailed explanations and do some cleanup myself. During this time, please don't remove any entries without <a href="/mw/index.php?title=User_talk:Eighty5cacao" title="User talk:Eighty5cacao">talking to me</a> first. (I can't guarantee a shorter time to resolve such issues because I will be somewhat busy with schoolwork.)</dd> <dd>Some of my entries here (not on -vg) were based purely on Wikipedia information, and I did not make a sufficient attempt to evaluate the similarity for myself because I did not legally own a recording of one or more songs and/or could not find the song(s) on YT. If this is a reason for any particular complaint, please specify.<a href="/mw/index.php?title=User:Eighty5cacao" title="User:Eighty5cacao">Eighty5cacao</a> 12:12, 16 October 2011 (MST) (last edit 12:31, 16 October 2011 (MST)) <dl><dd>I don't own a copy of a lot of these myself either; I just have relatives who listen to oldies radio. I wasn't planning on removing anything so quickly, just making demos of the ones I do own (or can buy easily on Amazon). --<a href="/mw/index.php?title=User:Tepples" title="User:Tepples">Tepples</a> 14:34, 16 October 2011 (MST)</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="What_is_AL0">What is AL0</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/mw/index.php?title=Talk:Songs_that_sound_alike&amp;action=edit&amp;section=11" title="Edit section: What is AL0">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2> <p>No article with that exact title seems to exist on the English Wikipedia. Does the abbreviation refer to <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%22Weird_Al%22_Yankovic_discography" class="extiw" title="wikipedia:&quot;Weird Al&quot; Yankovic discography">one of "Weird Al" Yankovic's albums</a>, or something else entirely? <a href="/mw/index.php?title=User:Eighty5cacao" title="User:Eighty5cacao">Eighty5cacao</a> 15:16, 19 October 2011 (MST) </p> <dl><dd>Nothing to do with Weird Al, just the titles of some mixtapes I made when I was in college. <i>AL0: Bigg Mixx</i> was released partially on Bemanistyle (or DDREI? I forget which, it was so long ago); the others (<i>AL1: Power Strangers</i> and <i>AL2: unsAOLved</i>) have never been released. --<a href="/mw/index.php?title=User:Tepples" title="User:Tepples">Tepples</a> 16:03, 19 October 2011 (MST) <dl><dd>I guess the lack of notability would explain why I had trouble searching for it. Thanks. <a href="/mw/index.php?title=User:Eighty5cacao" title="User:Eighty5cacao">Eighty5cacao</a> 16:11, 19 October 2011 (MST)</dd></dl></dd></dl> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Notepad.2B.2B">Notepad++</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/mw/index.php?title=Talk:Songs_that_sound_alike&amp;action=edit&amp;section=12" title="Edit section: Notepad++">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2> <p>Regarding <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://pineight.com/mw/index.php?title=Songs_that_sound_alike&amp;diff=4667&amp;oldid=4666">this edit</a>, why didn't you just do a find-and-replace in your browser? Did you have Notepad++ configured as an <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:External_editors" class="extiw" title="mediawikiwiki:Manual:External editors">external editor</a>? If so, why? (I'm just curious; I'm not trying to play tech support.) <a href="/mw/index.php?title=User:Eighty5cacao" title="User:Eighty5cacao">Eighty5cacao</a> 19:55, 30 October 2011 (MST) </p> <dl><dd>I cnp'd the article into N++ because I only know how to do find, not replace, within the text editor of Firefox. --<a href="/mw/index.php?title=User:Tepples" title="User:Tepples">Tepples</a> 06:13, 31 October 2011 (MST) <dl><dd>Oh, whoops, that was stupid. I forgot that most browsers don't offer find <u>and replace</u> as built-in functionality. So I take it the answer is "no" as to my question about the external editor setting? <a href="/mw/index.php?title=User:Eighty5cacao" title="User:Eighty5cacao">Eighty5cacao</a> 10:45, 31 October 2011 (MST)</dd></dl></dd></dl> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="MoS_issue:_Spaces_after_table_delimiters">MoS issue: Spaces after table delimiters</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/mw/index.php?title=Talk:Songs_that_sound_alike&amp;action=edit&amp;section=13" title="Edit section: MoS issue: Spaces after table delimiters">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2> <p>What is your justification for putting spaces after all the <code>|</code> delimiters? I would personally be inclined to do exactly the opposite (i.e., remove all the spaces). Sorry if there is some Wikipedia MoS page I failed to read. <a href="/mw/index.php?title=User:Eighty5cacao" title="User:Eighty5cacao">Eighty5cacao</a> 13:10, 14 May 2012 (MST) </p> <dl><dd>It was an excuse for a null edit to clarify my previous mistake (for which thank you for boldly correcting) for the record. I haven't seen any such MoS page either on whether or not to include a leading space in table cells. Wikipedia's help and project pages do it both ways: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Wikitable" class="extiw" title="wikipedia:Help:Wikitable">wikipedia:Help:Wikitable</a> with spaces and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Tables" class="extiw" title="wikipedia:Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Tables">wikipedia:Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Tables</a> without. The guiding principle is consistency, as alluded to in "Example with no space" on <a href="https://allthetropes.org/wiki/TropeNameInJokes" class="extiw" title="trope:TropeNameInJokes">trope:TropeNameInJokes</a>. --<a href="/mw/index.php?title=User:Tepples" title="User:Tepples">Tepples</a> 13:18, 14 May 2012 (MST)</dd></dl> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Yummy_Yummy_Yummy_and_Just_What_I_Needed">Yummy Yummy Yummy and Just What I Needed</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/mw/index.php?title=Talk:Songs_that_sound_alike&amp;action=edit&amp;section=14" title="Edit section: Yummy Yummy Yummy and Just What I Needed">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2> <p>Listen to the first few seconds of BOTH "Yummy Yummy Yummy" by Ohio Express and "Just What I Needed" by the Cars! --<i>unsigned (<a href="/mw/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/72.51.233.88" title="Special:Contributions/72.51.233.88">72.51.233.88</a>)</i> </p> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="newbie">newbie</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/mw/index.php?title=Talk:Songs_that_sound_alike&amp;action=edit&amp;section=15" title="Edit section: newbie">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2> <p>How about I do that --<i>unsigned (<a href="/mw/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/91.207.8.246" title="Special:Contributions/91.207.8.246">91.207.8.246</a>)</i> </p> <dl><dd>I have no idea what you mean by this. How about who does what? --<a href="/mw/index.php?title=User:Tepples" title="User:Tepples">Tepples</a> 05:38, 4 September 2012 (MST)</dd></dl> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Sweet_and_Tasty_Rock_and_Roll">Sweet and Tasty Rock and Roll</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/mw/index.php?title=Talk:Songs_that_sound_alike&amp;action=edit&amp;section=16" title="Edit section: Sweet and Tasty Rock and Roll">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2> <p>"Cherry Pie" by Warrant sounds like "Pour some sugar on me" by Def Leppard and Joan Jett's "I love rock and roll". This is similarity is mentioned on Cherry Pie's wikipedia page. --<i>unsigned (<a href="/mw/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/99.250.117.117" title="Special:Contributions/99.250.117.117">99.250.117.117</a>)</i> </p> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Powerhouse_B">Powerhouse B</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/mw/index.php?title=Talk:Songs_that_sound_alike&amp;action=edit&amp;section=17" title="Edit section: Powerhouse B">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2> <p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powerhouse_(instrumental)" class="extiw" title="wikipedia:Powerhouse (instrumental)">Wikipedia:Powerhouse (instrumental)</a> states that the two parts of "Powerhouse" are traditionally called "Powerhouse A" (the "chase" music) and "Powerhouse B" (the "assembly line" music). But I guess I don't really need the "B" with the Notes column. --<a href="/mw/index.php?title=User:Tepples" title="User:Tepples">Tepples</a> 18:05, 25 November 2012 (MST) </p> <dl><dd>Yeah, I apologize for not reading the Wikipedia article. I probably wouldn't have been so bold had the Notes field not started with the word "Bass." Anyway, I decided to move the "B" inside the link. --<a href="/mw/index.php?title=User:Eighty5cacao" title="User:Eighty5cacao">Eighty5cacao</a> 20:38, 25 November 2012 (MST)</dd></dl> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="A_Few_More">A Few More</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/mw/index.php?title=Talk:Songs_that_sound_alike&amp;action=edit&amp;section=18" title="Edit section: A Few More">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2> <p>James - Laid &amp; Ritchie Valens - La Bamba <br />Franz Ferdinand - Take Me Out &amp; Led Zeppelin - Trampled Underfoot <br />Arctic Monkeys - Fluorescent Adolescent &amp; Barenaked Ladies - Testing 1,2,3 --<a href="/mw/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/173.35.233.129" title="Special:Contributions/173.35.233.129">173.35.233.129</a> 14:05, 7 January 2013 (CST) </p><p>Smash Mouth- Then the Morning comes VS The Animals- It's My Life <small>(<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" class="extiw" title="wikipedia:Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> post by <a href="/mw/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/67.213.218.72" title="Special:Contributions/67.213.218.72">67.213.218.72</a>)</small> </p> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Here_are_some_songs">Here are some songs</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/mw/index.php?title=Talk:Songs_that_sound_alike&amp;action=edit&amp;section=19" title="Edit section: Here are some songs">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2> <p>Sly and the Family Stone's <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thank_You_(Falettinme_Be_Mice_Elf_Agin)" class="extiw" title="wikipedia:Thank You (Falettinme Be Mice Elf Agin)">Thank You (Falettinme Be Mice Elf Agin)</a> sounds like Wild Cherry's <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Play_That_Funky_Music" class="extiw" title="wikipedia:Play That Funky Music">Play That Funky Music</a>. </p><p>--<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/user:ksd5" class="extiw" title="wikipedia:user:ksd5">ksd5</a>, 15 January 2013. </p> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Another_Suggestion_-_Staying_Alive_in_the_Wall">Another Suggestion - Staying Alive in the Wall</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/mw/index.php?title=Talk:Songs_that_sound_alike&amp;action=edit&amp;section=20" title="Edit section: Another Suggestion - Staying Alive in the Wall">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2> <p><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="//www.youtube.com/watch?v=U13xOvDa19U&amp;list=FLLx053rWZxCiYWsBETgdKrQ">Stayin' Alive In The Wall (Pink Floyd vs Bee Gees Mashup) by Wax Audio</a> </p><p>Video by Wax Audio, A Mashup of Staying Alive by Beegees and The Wall by Pink Floyd </p><p>Please add this along with the others, You'll thank me later! </p><p>--<a href="/mw/index.php?title=User:Hamtaro126&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Hamtaro126 (page does not exist)">Hamtaro126</a> (<a href="/mw/index.php?title=User_talk:Hamtaro126" title="User talk:Hamtaro126">talk</a>) 10:38, 4 April 2013 (UTC) </p> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Suggestions_from_Ulfalizer">Suggestions from Ulfalizer</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/mw/index.php?title=Talk:Songs_that_sound_alike&amp;action=edit&amp;section=21" title="Edit section: Suggestions from Ulfalizer">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2> <p>Ulfalizer from #nesdev also submitted <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGuFn0RPgaE#t=6s">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGuFn0RPgaE#t=6s</a> vs. <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nl9WMIPzd6w#t=55">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nl9WMIPzd6w#t=55</a> but I lack the time to verify. --<a href="/mw/index.php?title=User:Tepples" title="User:Tepples">Tepples</a> (<a href="/mw/index.php?title=User_talk:Tepples" title="User talk:Tepples">talk</a>) 22:16, 19 April 2013 (UTC) </p> <!-- NewPP limit report Cached time: 20200925225418 Cache expiry: 86400 Dynamic content: false CPU time usage: 0.049 seconds Real time usage: 0.063 seconds Preprocessor visited node count: 130/1000000 Preprocessor generated node count: 216/1000000 Post‐expand include size: 364/2097152 bytes Template argument size: 78/2097152 bytes Highest expansion depth: 2/40 Expensive parser function count: 0/100 --> <!-- Transclusion expansion time report (%,ms,calls,template) 100.00% 9.716 1 -total 71.76% 6.972 2 Template:Tl 23.86% 2.318 1 Template:Unsigned --> </div>
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Contents 1 A couple random ones 2 Video game music 3 When to include the month 4 On second thought 5 YT links that are not demos 6 That one's bogus 7 Creativity allowable in mashups 8 Just Dance TODO 9 Relevance of lyrics 10 Define dubious 11 What is AL0 12 Notepad++ 13 MoS issue: Spaces after table delimiters 14 Yummy Yummy Yummy and Just What I Needed 15 newbie 16 Sweet and Tasty Rock and Roll 17 Powerhouse B 18 A Few More 19 Here are some songs 20 Another Suggestion - Staying Alive in the Wall 21 Suggestions from Ulfalizer A couple random ones[edit] The Rolling Stones, "Anybody Seen My Baby" vs. "Constant Craving" by k. d. lang (mentioned on the song's wikipedia page) "Africa" by Toto vs. "Fireflies" by Owl City Video game music[edit] What is the policy for discussing video-game music on this article? I see a couple of examples where one song in the comparison is from a video game (Hip Tanaka - Chill). What about alleged cryptomnesia between two video-game songs? Do we need to create a separate article for that? Eighty5cacao 10:13, 19 August 2010 (MST) Yeah, I heard a StarTropics bass line on level 1 of Zoop for Super NES too. I'm not sure exactly in which direction I want to take the page, but I don't want video game examples to overwhelm examples from the U.S. pop charts; I want it to be accessible to non-gamers. Perhaps a categorization scheme might become apparent later. --Tepples 16:44, 19 August 2010 (MST) I may start an informal list in my userspace, but initially it will focus on examples that can be supported by online videos, and it will be a long time before it is comprehensive enough to be mainspaced. Eighty5cacao 22:45, 20 August 2010 (MST) When to include the month[edit] To answer a question brought up in an edit summary: Ordinarily, only the year of a song's first publication is needed. It is helpful to add the month if the songs were first published in the same year or successive years (e.g. 2001 vs. 2002) to establish how likely it is that the writer of one song had heard the other. --Tepples 12:36, 24 August 2010 (MST) Okay, thank you. I figured that out a few minutes after my edit... Eighty5cacao 15:41, 24 August 2010 (MST) On second thought[edit] Journey - Don't Stop Believin' vs. Hosanna! Music - Blessed Be the Lord (1992) when I went back to it, they weren't as similar as I thought, but I might be able to stretch it if I get time to make a juxtaposition. --Tepples 10:35, 5 September 2010 (MST) This one's a stretch too: He's So Fine vs. My Sweet Lord vs. Grand Funk Railroad - Bad Time vs. The Four Seasons - Let's Hang On! --Tepples 17:21, 19 September 2010 (MST) YT links that are not demos[edit] Discussion moved to User talk:Eighty5cacao/Songs that sound alike (video games)#YT links that are not demos --Eighty5cacao 17:32, 3 October 2010 (MST) That one's bogus[edit] "Layla" and "Two Tickets to Paradise"? That one's bogus. -- Jim Yerrick 13:38, 25 December 2010 (MST) Can you explain the problem in more detail so that Tepples can reevaluate this / provide any necessary supporting references? Eighty5cacao 16:47, 25 December 2010 (MST) Administrivia: Why did the original post of this section get attributed to Sukey? --Eighty5cacao (talk) 03:49, 5 September 2013 (UTC) A bug in older versions of User Merge would merge userid 0 (anonymous edits) to another user if the "merge from" user were misspelled (or copied and pasted with a parenthesis). So all anonymous edits before a certain date appear to have been merged. --Tepples (talk) 13:07, 5 September 2013 (UTC) Creativity allowable in mashups[edit] This could also have been posted to [[Template talk:Non-free stsa]] but I wasn't sure I've noticed that your mashups tend to separate the two songs by stereo channels, with the minimum of editing necessary. What about mashups that require a greater degree of creative editing to adequately demonstrate the similarity? Is it acceptable for these to be uploaded to the wiki and given the {{non-free stsa}} template, provided that an adequate rationale is written? Or should they be preferentially uploaded elsewhere? (For examples of greater creativity, see certain examples which are currently linked on the STSA pages.) Does the wording of {{non-free stsa}} need to be adjusted? Eighty5cacao 17:59, 23 March 2011 (MST) (last edit 08:47, 24 March 2011 (MST)) There's a bit of creativity in some of my existing mash-ups. The one with "Dam Dariram" (not linked due to likely authorized reuse) and the one with "You Are What You Is" both adjust loop counts of one of the tracks. The latter also has a few moments where I fade one track out and the other to center to make a drum fill or other effect not clash. The one with "Friend Like Me" on the video game page is a cover of the older song using the newer song's sample bank. As long as it contains elements of both songs arranged in a way that illustrates the similarity, and as long as the rationale is plausible, it should be fine. --Tepples 11:00, 24 March 2011 (MST) Just Dance TODO[edit] Citations needed: I recall hearing that Just Dance 2 was at one point planned to include "Just Dance" (the Lady Gaga song), but this was changed at some point in development and I don't remember the exact reason. Eighty5cacao 21:53, 18 August 2011 (MST) Relevance of lyrics[edit] To what extent are lyrics and music-video contents relevant to this article? See for example the Linkin Park/Evanescence cases, as well as various notes and footnotes already on the article. Eighty5cacao 08:06, 25 August 2011 (MST) They're not directly relevant to this article in particular, but I needed somewhere to stash things that had been brewing in my head. --Tepples 10:22, 25 August 2011 (MST) So a new page should be created to handle similarities that are based more on lyrics or music videos than on melody? Eighty5cacao 14:09, 25 August 2011 (MST) Define dubious[edit] Regarding this edit summary, could you list the specific entries you consider dubious (and what specifically is wrong with each) so that I can drag any of mine back to the dump? Eighty5cacao 11:09, 16 October 2011 (MST) I'll have to go through them again, but there were a few cases here and on (vg) where I couldn't even find what parts of the songs you were talking about. --Tepples 11:47, 16 October 2011 (MST) In that case, please allow a little over 48 hours from now for me to provide more detailed explanations and do some cleanup myself. During this time, please don't remove any entries without talking to me first. (I can't guarantee a shorter time to resolve such issues because I will be somewhat busy with schoolwork.) Some of my entries here (not on -vg) were based purely on Wikipedia information, and I did not make a sufficient attempt to evaluate the similarity for myself because I did not legally own a recording of one or more songs and/or could not find the song(s) on YT. If this is a reason for any particular complaint, please specify.Eighty5cacao 12:12, 16 October 2011 (MST) (last edit 12:31, 16 October 2011 (MST)) I don't own a copy of a lot of these myself either; I just have relatives who listen to oldies radio. I wasn't planning on removing anything so quickly, just making demos of the ones I do own (or can buy easily on Amazon). --Tepples 14:34, 16 October 2011 (MST) What is AL0[edit] No article with that exact title seems to exist on the English Wikipedia. Does the abbreviation refer to one of "Weird Al" Yankovic's albums, or something else entirely? Eighty5cacao 15:16, 19 October 2011 (MST) Nothing to do with Weird Al, just the titles of some mixtapes I made when I was in college. AL0: Bigg Mixx was released partially on Bemanistyle (or DDREI? I forget which, it was so long ago); the others (AL1: Power Strangers and AL2: unsAOLved) have never been released. --Tepples 16:03, 19 October 2011 (MST) I guess the lack of notability would explain why I had trouble searching for it. Thanks. Eighty5cacao 16:11, 19 October 2011 (MST) Notepad++[edit] Regarding this edit, why didn't you just do a find-and-replace in your browser? Did you have Notepad++ configured as an external editor? If so, why? (I'm just curious; I'm not trying to play tech support.) Eighty5cacao 19:55, 30 October 2011 (MST) I cnp'd the article into N++ because I only know how to do find, not replace, within the text editor of Firefox. --Tepples 06:13, 31 October 2011 (MST) Oh, whoops, that was stupid. I forgot that most browsers don't offer find and replace as built-in functionality. So I take it the answer is "no" as to my question about the external editor setting? Eighty5cacao 10:45, 31 October 2011 (MST) MoS issue: Spaces after table delimiters[edit] What is your justification for putting spaces after all the | delimiters? I would personally be inclined to do exactly the opposite (i.e., remove all the spaces). Sorry if there is some Wikipedia MoS page I failed to read. Eighty5cacao 13:10, 14 May 2012 (MST) It was an excuse for a null edit to clarify my previous mistake (for which thank you for boldly correcting) for the record. I haven't seen any such MoS page either on whether or not to include a leading space in table cells. Wikipedia's help and project pages do it both ways: wikipedia:Help:Wikitable with spaces and wikipedia:Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Tables without. The guiding principle is consistency, as alluded to in "Example with no space" on trope:TropeNameInJokes. --Tepples 13:18, 14 May 2012 (MST) Yummy Yummy Yummy and Just What I Needed[edit] Listen to the first few seconds of BOTH "Yummy Yummy Yummy" by Ohio Express and "Just What I Needed" by the Cars! --unsigned (72.51.233.88) newbie[edit] How about I do that --unsigned (91.207.8.246) I have no idea what you mean by this. How about who does what? --Tepples 05:38, 4 September 2012 (MST) Sweet and Tasty Rock and Roll[edit] "Cherry Pie" by Warrant sounds like "Pour some sugar on me" by Def Leppard and Joan Jett's "I love rock and roll". This is similarity is mentioned on Cherry Pie's wikipedia page. --unsigned (99.250.117.117) Powerhouse B[edit] Wikipedia:Powerhouse (instrumental) states that the two parts of "Powerhouse" are traditionally called "Powerhouse A" (the "chase" music) and "Powerhouse B" (the "assembly line" music). But I guess I don't really need the "B" with the Notes column. --Tepples 18:05, 25 November 2012 (MST) Yeah, I apologize for not reading the Wikipedia article. I probably wouldn't have been so bold had the Notes field not started with the word "Bass." Anyway, I decided to move the "B" inside the link. --Eighty5cacao 20:38, 25 November 2012 (MST) A Few More[edit] James - Laid &amp; Ritchie Valens - La Bamba Franz Ferdinand - Take Me Out &amp; Led Zeppelin - Trampled Underfoot Arctic Monkeys - Fluorescent Adolescent &amp; Barenaked Ladies - Testing 1,2,3 --173.35.233.129 14:05, 7 January 2013 (CST) Smash Mouth- Then the Morning comes VS The Animals- It's My Life (unsigned post by 67.213.218.72) Here are some songs[edit] Sly and the Family Stone's Thank You (Falettinme Be Mice Elf Agin) sounds like Wild Cherry's Play That Funky Music. --ksd5, 15 January 2013. Another Suggestion - Staying Alive in the Wall[edit] Stayin' Alive In The Wall (Pink Floyd vs Bee Gees Mashup) by Wax Audio Video by Wax Audio, A Mashup of Staying Alive by Beegees and The Wall by Pink Floyd Please add this along with the others, You'll thank me later! --Hamtaro126 (talk) 10:38, 4 April 2013 (UTC) Suggestions from Ulfalizer[edit] Ulfalizer from #nesdev also submitted http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGuFn0RPgaE#t=6s vs. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nl9WMIPzd6w#t=55 but I lack the time to verify. --Tepples (talk) 22:16, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
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<div class="mw-parser-output"><div id="toc" class="toc"><div class="toctitle"><h2>Contents</h2></div> <ul> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-1"><a href="#A_couple_random_ones"><span class="tocnumber">1</span> <span class="toctext">A couple random ones</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-2"><a href="#Video_game_music"><span class="tocnumber">2</span> <span class="toctext">Video game music</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-3"><a href="#When_to_include_the_month"><span class="tocnumber">3</span> <span class="toctext">When to include the month</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-4"><a href="#On_second_thought"><span class="tocnumber">4</span> <span class="toctext">On second thought</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-5"><a href="#YT_links_that_are_not_demos"><span class="tocnumber">5</span> <span class="toctext">YT links that are not demos</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-6"><a href="#That_one.27s_bogus"><span class="tocnumber">6</span> <span class="toctext">That one's bogus</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-7"><a href="#Creativity_allowable_in_mashups"><span class="tocnumber">7</span> <span class="toctext">Creativity allowable in mashups</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-8"><a href="#Just_Dance_TODO"><span class="tocnumber">8</span> <span class="toctext">Just Dance TODO</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-9"><a href="#Relevance_of_lyrics"><span class="tocnumber">9</span> <span class="toctext">Relevance of lyrics</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-10"><a href="#Define_dubious"><span class="tocnumber">10</span> <span class="toctext">Define dubious</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-11"><a href="#What_is_AL0"><span class="tocnumber">11</span> <span class="toctext">What is AL0</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-12"><a href="#Notepad.2B.2B"><span class="tocnumber">12</span> <span class="toctext">Notepad++</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-13"><a href="#MoS_issue:_Spaces_after_table_delimiters"><span class="tocnumber">13</span> <span class="toctext">MoS issue: Spaces after table delimiters</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-14"><a href="#Yummy_Yummy_Yummy_and_Just_What_I_Needed"><span class="tocnumber">14</span> <span class="toctext">Yummy Yummy Yummy and Just What I Needed</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-15"><a href="#newbie"><span class="tocnumber">15</span> <span class="toctext">newbie</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-16"><a href="#Sweet_and_Tasty_Rock_and_Roll"><span class="tocnumber">16</span> <span class="toctext">Sweet and Tasty Rock and Roll</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-17"><a href="#Powerhouse_B"><span class="tocnumber">17</span> <span class="toctext">Powerhouse B</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-18"><a href="#A_Few_More"><span class="tocnumber">18</span> <span class="toctext">A Few More</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-19"><a href="#Here_are_some_songs"><span class="tocnumber">19</span> <span class="toctext">Here are some songs</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-20"><a href="#Another_Suggestion_-_Staying_Alive_in_the_Wall"><span class="tocnumber">20</span> <span class="toctext">Another Suggestion - Staying Alive in the Wall</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-21"><a href="#Suggestions_from_Ulfalizer"><span class="tocnumber">21</span> <span class="toctext">Suggestions from Ulfalizer</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-22"><a href="#Popular_online_clothing_retailer.2CPresents_style_forward_clothing.2CTrends_released_clothes_goods_for_sale"><span class="tocnumber">22</span> <span class="toctext">Popular online clothing retailer,Presents style forward clothing,Trends released clothes goods for sale</span></a></li> </ul> </div> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="A_couple_random_ones">A couple random ones</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/mw/index.php?title=Talk:Songs_that_sound_alike&amp;action=edit&amp;section=1" title="Edit section: A couple random ones">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2> <p>The Rolling Stones, "Anybody Seen My Baby" vs. "Constant Craving" by k. d. lang (mentioned on the song's wikipedia page) </p><p>"Africa" by Toto vs. "Fireflies" by Owl City </p><p><br /> </p> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Video_game_music">Video game music</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/mw/index.php?title=Talk:Songs_that_sound_alike&amp;action=edit&amp;section=2" title="Edit section: Video game music">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2> <p>What is the policy for discussing video-game music on this article? I see a couple of examples where <i>one</i> song in the comparison is from a video game (Hip Tanaka - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._Mario_(video_game)" class="extiw" title="wikipedia:Dr. Mario (video game)">Chill</a>). What about alleged cryptomnesia between <i>two</i> video-game songs? Do we need to create a separate article for that? <a href="/mw/index.php?title=User:Eighty5cacao" title="User:Eighty5cacao">Eighty5cacao</a> 10:13, 19 August 2010 (MST) </p> <dl><dd>Yeah, I heard a StarTropics bass line on level 1 of Zoop for Super NES too. I'm not sure exactly in which direction I want to take the page, but I don't want video game examples to overwhelm examples from the U.S. pop charts; I want it to be accessible to non-gamers. Perhaps a categorization scheme might become apparent later. --<a href="/mw/index.php?title=User:Tepples" title="User:Tepples">Tepples</a> 16:44, 19 August 2010 (MST) <dl><dd>I may start an informal list in my <a href="/mw/index.php?title=User:Eighty5cacao/Songs_that_sound_alike_(video_games)" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Eighty5cacao/Songs that sound alike (video games)">userspace</a>, but initially it will focus on examples that can be supported by online videos, and it will be a long time before it is comprehensive enough to be mainspaced. <a href="/mw/index.php?title=User:Eighty5cacao" title="User:Eighty5cacao">Eighty5cacao</a> 22:45, 20 August 2010 (MST)</dd></dl></dd></dl> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="When_to_include_the_month">When to include the month</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/mw/index.php?title=Talk:Songs_that_sound_alike&amp;action=edit&amp;section=3" title="Edit section: When to include the month">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2> <p>To answer a question brought up in an edit summary: Ordinarily, only the year of a song's first publication is needed. It is helpful to add the month if the songs were first published in the same year or successive years (e.g. 2001 vs. 2002) to establish how likely it is that the writer of one song had heard the other. --<a href="/mw/index.php?title=User:Tepples" title="User:Tepples">Tepples</a> 12:36, 24 August 2010 (MST) </p> <dl><dd>Okay, thank you. I figured that out a few minutes after my edit... <a href="/mw/index.php?title=User:Eighty5cacao" title="User:Eighty5cacao">Eighty5cacao</a> 15:41, 24 August 2010 (MST)</dd></dl> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="On_second_thought">On second thought</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/mw/index.php?title=Talk:Songs_that_sound_alike&amp;action=edit&amp;section=4" title="Edit section: On second thought">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2> <p>Journey - Don't Stop Believin' vs. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000008GNK/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=B000008GNK&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=pineig06-20">Hosanna! Music - Blessed Be the Lord</a> (1992) when I went back to it, they weren't as similar as I thought, but I might be able to stretch it if I get time to make a juxtaposition. --<a href="/mw/index.php?title=User:Tepples" title="User:Tepples">Tepples</a> 10:35, 5 September 2010 (MST) </p><p>This one's a stretch too: He's So Fine vs. My Sweet Lord vs. Grand Funk Railroad - Bad Time vs. The Four Seasons - Let's Hang On! --<a href="/mw/index.php?title=User:Tepples" title="User:Tepples">Tepples</a> 17:21, 19 September 2010 (MST) </p> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="YT_links_that_are_not_demos">YT links that are not demos</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/mw/index.php?title=Talk:Songs_that_sound_alike&amp;action=edit&amp;section=5" title="Edit section: YT links that are not demos">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2> <p><i>Discussion moved to <a href="/mw/index.php?title=User_talk:Eighty5cacao/Songs_that_sound_alike_(video_games)#YT_links_that_are_not_demos" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Eighty5cacao/Songs that sound alike (video games)">User talk:Eighty5cacao/Songs that sound alike (video games)#YT links that are not demos</a> --<a href="/mw/index.php?title=User:Eighty5cacao" title="User:Eighty5cacao">Eighty5cacao</a> 17:32, 3 October 2010 (MST)</i> </p> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="That_one.27s_bogus">That one's bogus</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/mw/index.php?title=Talk:Songs_that_sound_alike&amp;action=edit&amp;section=6" title="Edit section: That one&#039;s bogus">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2> <p>"Layla" and "Two Tickets to Paradise"? That one's bogus. -- Jim Yerrick 13:38, 25 December 2010 (MST) </p> <dl><dd>Can you explain the problem in more detail so that Tepples can reevaluate this / provide any necessary supporting references? <a href="/mw/index.php?title=User:Eighty5cacao" title="User:Eighty5cacao">Eighty5cacao</a> 16:47, 25 December 2010 (MST) <dl><dd>Administrivia: Why did the original post of this section get attributed to Sukey? --<a href="/mw/index.php?title=User:Eighty5cacao" title="User:Eighty5cacao">Eighty5cacao</a> (<a href="/mw/index.php?title=User_talk:Eighty5cacao" title="User talk:Eighty5cacao">talk</a>) 03:49, 5 September 2013 (UTC) <dl><dd>A bug in older versions of User Merge would merge userid 0 (anonymous edits) to another user if the "merge from" user were misspelled (or copied and pasted with a parenthesis). So all anonymous edits before a certain date appear to have been merged. --<a href="/mw/index.php?title=User:Tepples" title="User:Tepples">Tepples</a> (<a href="/mw/index.php?title=User_talk:Tepples" title="User talk:Tepples">talk</a>) 13:07, 5 September 2013 (UTC)</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Creativity_allowable_in_mashups">Creativity allowable in mashups</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/mw/index.php?title=Talk:Songs_that_sound_alike&amp;action=edit&amp;section=7" title="Edit section: Creativity allowable in mashups">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2> <p><sup><i>This could also have been posted to [[Template talk:Non-free stsa]] but I wasn't sure</i></sup><br /> I've noticed that <a href="/mw/index.php?title=Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Non-free_stsa" title="Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Non-free stsa">your mashups</a> tend to separate the two songs by stereo channels, with the minimum of editing necessary. What about mashups that require a greater degree of creative editing to adequately demonstrate the similarity? Is it acceptable for these to be uploaded to the wiki and given the <code>{{<a href="/mw/index.php?title=Template:Non-free_stsa" title="Template:Non-free stsa">non-free stsa</a>}}</code> template, provided that an adequate rationale is written? Or should they be preferentially uploaded elsewhere? (For examples of greater creativity, see <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rZz1S1r0_E">certain</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2dPA2dCRNY">examples</a> which are currently linked on the STSA pages.) Does the wording of <code>{{<a href="/mw/index.php?title=Template:Non-free_stsa" title="Template:Non-free stsa">non-free stsa</a>}}</code> need to be adjusted? <a href="/mw/index.php?title=User:Eighty5cacao" title="User:Eighty5cacao">Eighty5cacao</a> 17:59, 23 March 2011 (MST) (last edit 08:47, 24 March 2011 (MST)) </p> <dl><dd>There's a bit of creativity in some of my existing mash-ups. The one with "Dam Dariram" (not linked due to likely authorized reuse) and <a href="/mw/index.php?title=File:STSA_Sweet_Home_Alabama_vs_Low.ogg" title="File:STSA Sweet Home Alabama vs Low.ogg">the one with "You Are What You Is"</a> both adjust loop counts of one of the tracks. The latter also has a few moments where I fade one track out and the other to center to make a drum fill or other effect not clash. <a href="/mw/index.php?title=File:STSA_Aladdin_vs._Zoop.ogg" title="File:STSA Aladdin vs. Zoop.ogg">The one with "Friend Like Me"</a> on the video game page is a cover of the older song using the newer song's sample bank. As long as it contains elements of both songs arranged in a way that illustrates the similarity, and as long as the rationale is plausible, it should be fine. --<a href="/mw/index.php?title=User:Tepples" title="User:Tepples">Tepples</a> 11:00, 24 March 2011 (MST)</dd></dl> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Just_Dance_TODO">Just Dance TODO</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/mw/index.php?title=Talk:Songs_that_sound_alike&amp;action=edit&amp;section=8" title="Edit section: Just Dance TODO">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2> <p>Citations needed: I recall hearing that <i>Just Dance 2</i> was at one point planned to include "Just Dance" (the Lady Gaga song), but this was changed at some point in development and I don't remember the exact reason. <a href="/mw/index.php?title=User:Eighty5cacao" title="User:Eighty5cacao">Eighty5cacao</a> 21:53, 18 August 2011 (MST) </p> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Relevance_of_lyrics">Relevance of lyrics</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/mw/index.php?title=Talk:Songs_that_sound_alike&amp;action=edit&amp;section=9" title="Edit section: Relevance of lyrics">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2> <p>To what extent are lyrics and music-video contents relevant to this article? See for example the <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://pineight.com/mw/index.php?title=User:Eighty5cacao/misc/WMG_dump&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=4021">Linkin Park/Evanescence cases</a>, as well as various notes and footnotes already on the article. <a href="/mw/index.php?title=User:Eighty5cacao" title="User:Eighty5cacao">Eighty5cacao</a> 08:06, 25 August 2011 (MST) </p> <dl><dd>They're not directly relevant to this article in particular, but I needed somewhere to stash things that had been brewing in my head. --<a href="/mw/index.php?title=User:Tepples" title="User:Tepples">Tepples</a> 10:22, 25 August 2011 (MST) <dl><dd>So a new page should be created to handle similarities that are based more on lyrics or music videos than on melody? <a href="/mw/index.php?title=User:Eighty5cacao" title="User:Eighty5cacao">Eighty5cacao</a> 14:09, 25 August 2011 (MST)</dd></dl></dd></dl> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Define_dubious">Define dubious</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/mw/index.php?title=Talk:Songs_that_sound_alike&amp;action=edit&amp;section=10" title="Edit section: Define dubious">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2> <p>Regarding <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://pineight.com/mw/index.php?title=Songs_that_sound_alike&amp;diff=4548&amp;oldid=4545">this edit summary</a>, could you list the specific entries you consider dubious (and what specifically is wrong with each) so that I can drag any of mine back to <a href="/mw/index.php?title=User:Eighty5cacao/misc/Songs_that_sound_alike_(investigation_needed)" title="User:Eighty5cacao/misc/Songs that sound alike (investigation needed)">the dump</a>? <a href="/mw/index.php?title=User:Eighty5cacao" title="User:Eighty5cacao">Eighty5cacao</a> 11:09, 16 October 2011 (MST) </p> <dl><dd>I'll have to go through them again, but there were a few cases here and on (vg) where I couldn't even find what parts of the songs you were talking about. --<a href="/mw/index.php?title=User:Tepples" title="User:Tepples">Tepples</a> 11:47, 16 October 2011 (MST) <dl><dd>In that case, please allow a little over 48 hours from now for me to provide more detailed explanations and do some cleanup myself. During this time, please don't remove any entries without <a href="/mw/index.php?title=User_talk:Eighty5cacao" title="User talk:Eighty5cacao">talking to me</a> first. (I can't guarantee a shorter time to resolve such issues because I will be somewhat busy with schoolwork.)</dd> <dd>Some of my entries here (not on -vg) were based purely on Wikipedia information, and I did not make a sufficient attempt to evaluate the similarity for myself because I did not legally own a recording of one or more songs and/or could not find the song(s) on YT. If this is a reason for any particular complaint, please specify.<a href="/mw/index.php?title=User:Eighty5cacao" title="User:Eighty5cacao">Eighty5cacao</a> 12:12, 16 October 2011 (MST) (last edit 12:31, 16 October 2011 (MST)) <dl><dd>I don't own a copy of a lot of these myself either; I just have relatives who listen to oldies radio. I wasn't planning on removing anything so quickly, just making demos of the ones I do own (or can buy easily on Amazon). --<a href="/mw/index.php?title=User:Tepples" title="User:Tepples">Tepples</a> 14:34, 16 October 2011 (MST)</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="What_is_AL0">What is AL0</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/mw/index.php?title=Talk:Songs_that_sound_alike&amp;action=edit&amp;section=11" title="Edit section: What is AL0">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2> <p>No article with that exact title seems to exist on the English Wikipedia. Does the abbreviation refer to <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%22Weird_Al%22_Yankovic_discography" class="extiw" title="wikipedia:&quot;Weird Al&quot; Yankovic discography">one of "Weird Al" Yankovic's albums</a>, or something else entirely? <a href="/mw/index.php?title=User:Eighty5cacao" title="User:Eighty5cacao">Eighty5cacao</a> 15:16, 19 October 2011 (MST) </p> <dl><dd>Nothing to do with Weird Al, just the titles of some mixtapes I made when I was in college. <i>AL0: Bigg Mixx</i> was released partially on Bemanistyle (or DDREI? I forget which, it was so long ago); the others (<i>AL1: Power Strangers</i> and <i>AL2: unsAOLved</i>) have never been released. --<a href="/mw/index.php?title=User:Tepples" title="User:Tepples">Tepples</a> 16:03, 19 October 2011 (MST) <dl><dd>I guess the lack of notability would explain why I had trouble searching for it. Thanks. <a href="/mw/index.php?title=User:Eighty5cacao" title="User:Eighty5cacao">Eighty5cacao</a> 16:11, 19 October 2011 (MST)</dd></dl></dd></dl> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Notepad.2B.2B">Notepad++</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/mw/index.php?title=Talk:Songs_that_sound_alike&amp;action=edit&amp;section=12" title="Edit section: Notepad++">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2> <p>Regarding <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://pineight.com/mw/index.php?title=Songs_that_sound_alike&amp;diff=4667&amp;oldid=4666">this edit</a>, why didn't you just do a find-and-replace in your browser? Did you have Notepad++ configured as an <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:External_editors" class="extiw" title="mediawikiwiki:Manual:External editors">external editor</a>? If so, why? (I'm just curious; I'm not trying to play tech support.) <a href="/mw/index.php?title=User:Eighty5cacao" title="User:Eighty5cacao">Eighty5cacao</a> 19:55, 30 October 2011 (MST) </p> <dl><dd>I cnp'd the article into N++ because I only know how to do find, not replace, within the text editor of Firefox. --<a href="/mw/index.php?title=User:Tepples" title="User:Tepples">Tepples</a> 06:13, 31 October 2011 (MST) <dl><dd>Oh, whoops, that was stupid. I forgot that most browsers don't offer find <u>and replace</u> as built-in functionality. So I take it the answer is "no" as to my question about the external editor setting? <a href="/mw/index.php?title=User:Eighty5cacao" title="User:Eighty5cacao">Eighty5cacao</a> 10:45, 31 October 2011 (MST)</dd></dl></dd></dl> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="MoS_issue:_Spaces_after_table_delimiters">MoS issue: Spaces after table delimiters</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/mw/index.php?title=Talk:Songs_that_sound_alike&amp;action=edit&amp;section=13" title="Edit section: MoS issue: Spaces after table delimiters">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2> <p>What is your justification for putting spaces after all the <code>|</code> delimiters? I would personally be inclined to do exactly the opposite (i.e., remove all the spaces). Sorry if there is some Wikipedia MoS page I failed to read. <a href="/mw/index.php?title=User:Eighty5cacao" title="User:Eighty5cacao">Eighty5cacao</a> 13:10, 14 May 2012 (MST) </p> <dl><dd>It was an excuse for a null edit to clarify my previous mistake (for which thank you for boldly correcting) for the record. I haven't seen any such MoS page either on whether or not to include a leading space in table cells. Wikipedia's help and project pages do it both ways: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Wikitable" class="extiw" title="wikipedia:Help:Wikitable">wikipedia:Help:Wikitable</a> with spaces and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Tables" class="extiw" title="wikipedia:Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Tables">wikipedia:Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Tables</a> without. The guiding principle is consistency, as alluded to in "Example with no space" on <a href="https://allthetropes.org/wiki/TropeNameInJokes" class="extiw" title="trope:TropeNameInJokes">trope:TropeNameInJokes</a>. --<a href="/mw/index.php?title=User:Tepples" title="User:Tepples">Tepples</a> 13:18, 14 May 2012 (MST)</dd></dl> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Yummy_Yummy_Yummy_and_Just_What_I_Needed">Yummy Yummy Yummy and Just What I Needed</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/mw/index.php?title=Talk:Songs_that_sound_alike&amp;action=edit&amp;section=14" title="Edit section: Yummy Yummy Yummy and Just What I Needed">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2> <p>Listen to the first few seconds of BOTH "Yummy Yummy Yummy" by Ohio Express and "Just What I Needed" by the Cars! --<i>unsigned (<a href="/mw/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/72.51.233.88" title="Special:Contributions/72.51.233.88">72.51.233.88</a>)</i> </p> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="newbie">newbie</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/mw/index.php?title=Talk:Songs_that_sound_alike&amp;action=edit&amp;section=15" title="Edit section: newbie">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2> <p>How about I do that --<i>unsigned (<a href="/mw/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/91.207.8.246" title="Special:Contributions/91.207.8.246">91.207.8.246</a>)</i> </p> <dl><dd>I have no idea what you mean by this. How about who does what? --<a href="/mw/index.php?title=User:Tepples" title="User:Tepples">Tepples</a> 05:38, 4 September 2012 (MST)</dd></dl> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Sweet_and_Tasty_Rock_and_Roll">Sweet and Tasty Rock and Roll</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/mw/index.php?title=Talk:Songs_that_sound_alike&amp;action=edit&amp;section=16" title="Edit section: Sweet and Tasty Rock and Roll">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2> <p>"Cherry Pie" by Warrant sounds like "Pour some sugar on me" by Def Leppard and Joan Jett's "I love rock and roll". This is similarity is mentioned on Cherry Pie's wikipedia page. --<i>unsigned (<a href="/mw/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/99.250.117.117" title="Special:Contributions/99.250.117.117">99.250.117.117</a>)</i> </p> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Powerhouse_B">Powerhouse B</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/mw/index.php?title=Talk:Songs_that_sound_alike&amp;action=edit&amp;section=17" title="Edit section: Powerhouse B">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2> <p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powerhouse_(instrumental)" class="extiw" title="wikipedia:Powerhouse (instrumental)">Wikipedia:Powerhouse (instrumental)</a> states that the two parts of "Powerhouse" are traditionally called "Powerhouse A" (the "chase" music) and "Powerhouse B" (the "assembly line" music). But I guess I don't really need the "B" with the Notes column. --<a href="/mw/index.php?title=User:Tepples" title="User:Tepples">Tepples</a> 18:05, 25 November 2012 (MST) </p> <dl><dd>Yeah, I apologize for not reading the Wikipedia article. I probably wouldn't have been so bold had the Notes field not started with the word "Bass." Anyway, I decided to move the "B" inside the link. --<a href="/mw/index.php?title=User:Eighty5cacao" title="User:Eighty5cacao">Eighty5cacao</a> 20:38, 25 November 2012 (MST)</dd></dl> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="A_Few_More">A Few More</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/mw/index.php?title=Talk:Songs_that_sound_alike&amp;action=edit&amp;section=18" title="Edit section: A Few More">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2> <p>James - Laid &amp; Ritchie Valens - La Bamba <br />Franz Ferdinand - Take Me Out &amp; Led Zeppelin - Trampled Underfoot <br />Arctic Monkeys - Fluorescent Adolescent &amp; Barenaked Ladies - Testing 1,2,3 --<a href="/mw/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/173.35.233.129" title="Special:Contributions/173.35.233.129">173.35.233.129</a> 14:05, 7 January 2013 (CST) </p><p>Smash Mouth- Then the Morning comes VS The Animals- It's My Life <small>(<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" class="extiw" title="wikipedia:Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> post by <a href="/mw/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/67.213.218.72" title="Special:Contributions/67.213.218.72">67.213.218.72</a>)</small> </p> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Here_are_some_songs">Here are some songs</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/mw/index.php?title=Talk:Songs_that_sound_alike&amp;action=edit&amp;section=19" title="Edit section: Here are some songs">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2> <p>Sly and the Family Stone's <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thank_You_(Falettinme_Be_Mice_Elf_Agin)" class="extiw" title="wikipedia:Thank You (Falettinme Be Mice Elf Agin)">Thank You (Falettinme Be Mice Elf Agin)</a> sounds like Wild Cherry's <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Play_That_Funky_Music" class="extiw" title="wikipedia:Play That Funky Music">Play That Funky Music</a>. </p><p>--<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/user:ksd5" class="extiw" title="wikipedia:user:ksd5">ksd5</a>, 15 January 2013. </p> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Another_Suggestion_-_Staying_Alive_in_the_Wall">Another Suggestion - Staying Alive in the Wall</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/mw/index.php?title=Talk:Songs_that_sound_alike&amp;action=edit&amp;section=20" title="Edit section: Another Suggestion - Staying Alive in the Wall">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2> <p><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="//www.youtube.com/watch?v=U13xOvDa19U&amp;list=FLLx053rWZxCiYWsBETgdKrQ">Stayin' Alive In The Wall (Pink Floyd vs Bee Gees Mashup) by Wax Audio</a> </p><p>Video by Wax Audio, A Mashup of Staying Alive by Beegees and The Wall by Pink Floyd </p><p>Please add this along with the others, You'll thank me later! </p><p>--<a href="/mw/index.php?title=User:Hamtaro126&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Hamtaro126 (page does not exist)">Hamtaro126</a> (<a href="/mw/index.php?title=User_talk:Hamtaro126" title="User talk:Hamtaro126">talk</a>) 10:38, 4 April 2013 (UTC) </p> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Suggestions_from_Ulfalizer">Suggestions from Ulfalizer</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/mw/index.php?title=Talk:Songs_that_sound_alike&amp;action=edit&amp;section=21" title="Edit section: Suggestions from Ulfalizer">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2> <p>Ulfalizer from #nesdev also submitted <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGuFn0RPgaE#t=6s">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGuFn0RPgaE#t=6s</a> vs. <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nl9WMIPzd6w#t=55">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nl9WMIPzd6w#t=55</a> but I lack the time to verify. --<a href="/mw/index.php?title=User:Tepples" title="User:Tepples">Tepples</a> (<a href="/mw/index.php?title=User_talk:Tepples" title="User talk:Tepples">talk</a>) 22:16, 19 April 2013 (UTC) </p> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Popular_online_clothing_retailer.2CPresents_style_forward_clothing.2CTrends_released_clothes_goods_for_sale">Popular online clothing retailer,Presents style forward clothing,Trends released clothes goods for sale</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/mw/index.php?title=Talk:Songs_that_sound_alike&amp;action=edit&amp;section=22" title="Edit section: Popular online clothing retailer,Presents style forward clothing,Trends released clothes goods for sale">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2> <p>January 9, 2014, Miss International Brand Contest 2014 (Globe) Finals held in eye-catching style capital of Shenzhen. 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Contents 1 A couple random ones 2 Video game music 3 When to include the month 4 On second thought 5 YT links that are not demos 6 That one's bogus 7 Creativity allowable in mashups 8 Just Dance TODO 9 Relevance of lyrics 10 Define dubious 11 What is AL0 12 Notepad++ 13 MoS issue: Spaces after table delimiters 14 Yummy Yummy Yummy and Just What I Needed 15 newbie 16 Sweet and Tasty Rock and Roll 17 Powerhouse B 18 A Few More 19 Here are some songs 20 Another Suggestion - Staying Alive in the Wall 21 Suggestions from Ulfalizer 22 Popular online clothing retailer,Presents style forward clothing,Trends released clothes goods for sale A couple random ones[edit] The Rolling Stones, "Anybody Seen My Baby" vs. "Constant Craving" by k. d. lang (mentioned on the song's wikipedia page) "Africa" by Toto vs. "Fireflies" by Owl City Video game music[edit] What is the policy for discussing video-game music on this article? I see a couple of examples where one song in the comparison is from a video game (Hip Tanaka - Chill). What about alleged cryptomnesia between two video-game songs? Do we need to create a separate article for that? Eighty5cacao 10:13, 19 August 2010 (MST) Yeah, I heard a StarTropics bass line on level 1 of Zoop for Super NES too. I'm not sure exactly in which direction I want to take the page, but I don't want video game examples to overwhelm examples from the U.S. pop charts; I want it to be accessible to non-gamers. Perhaps a categorization scheme might become apparent later. --Tepples 16:44, 19 August 2010 (MST) I may start an informal list in my userspace, but initially it will focus on examples that can be supported by online videos, and it will be a long time before it is comprehensive enough to be mainspaced. Eighty5cacao 22:45, 20 August 2010 (MST) When to include the month[edit] To answer a question brought up in an edit summary: Ordinarily, only the year of a song's first publication is needed. It is helpful to add the month if the songs were first published in the same year or successive years (e.g. 2001 vs. 2002) to establish how likely it is that the writer of one song had heard the other. --Tepples 12:36, 24 August 2010 (MST) Okay, thank you. I figured that out a few minutes after my edit... Eighty5cacao 15:41, 24 August 2010 (MST) On second thought[edit] Journey - Don't Stop Believin' vs. Hosanna! Music - Blessed Be the Lord (1992) when I went back to it, they weren't as similar as I thought, but I might be able to stretch it if I get time to make a juxtaposition. --Tepples 10:35, 5 September 2010 (MST) This one's a stretch too: He's So Fine vs. My Sweet Lord vs. Grand Funk Railroad - Bad Time vs. The Four Seasons - Let's Hang On! --Tepples 17:21, 19 September 2010 (MST) YT links that are not demos[edit] Discussion moved to User talk:Eighty5cacao/Songs that sound alike (video games)#YT links that are not demos --Eighty5cacao 17:32, 3 October 2010 (MST) That one's bogus[edit] "Layla" and "Two Tickets to Paradise"? That one's bogus. -- Jim Yerrick 13:38, 25 December 2010 (MST) Can you explain the problem in more detail so that Tepples can reevaluate this / provide any necessary supporting references? Eighty5cacao 16:47, 25 December 2010 (MST) Administrivia: Why did the original post of this section get attributed to Sukey? --Eighty5cacao (talk) 03:49, 5 September 2013 (UTC) A bug in older versions of User Merge would merge userid 0 (anonymous edits) to another user if the "merge from" user were misspelled (or copied and pasted with a parenthesis). So all anonymous edits before a certain date appear to have been merged. --Tepples (talk) 13:07, 5 September 2013 (UTC) Creativity allowable in mashups[edit] This could also have been posted to [[Template talk:Non-free stsa]] but I wasn't sure I've noticed that your mashups tend to separate the two songs by stereo channels, with the minimum of editing necessary. What about mashups that require a greater degree of creative editing to adequately demonstrate the similarity? Is it acceptable for these to be uploaded to the wiki and given the {{non-free stsa}} template, provided that an adequate rationale is written? Or should they be preferentially uploaded elsewhere? (For examples of greater creativity, see certain examples which are currently linked on the STSA pages.) Does the wording of {{non-free stsa}} need to be adjusted? Eighty5cacao 17:59, 23 March 2011 (MST) (last edit 08:47, 24 March 2011 (MST)) There's a bit of creativity in some of my existing mash-ups. The one with "Dam Dariram" (not linked due to likely authorized reuse) and the one with "You Are What You Is" both adjust loop counts of one of the tracks. The latter also has a few moments where I fade one track out and the other to center to make a drum fill or other effect not clash. The one with "Friend Like Me" on the video game page is a cover of the older song using the newer song's sample bank. As long as it contains elements of both songs arranged in a way that illustrates the similarity, and as long as the rationale is plausible, it should be fine. --Tepples 11:00, 24 March 2011 (MST) Just Dance TODO[edit] Citations needed: I recall hearing that Just Dance 2 was at one point planned to include "Just Dance" (the Lady Gaga song), but this was changed at some point in development and I don't remember the exact reason. Eighty5cacao 21:53, 18 August 2011 (MST) Relevance of lyrics[edit] To what extent are lyrics and music-video contents relevant to this article? See for example the Linkin Park/Evanescence cases, as well as various notes and footnotes already on the article. Eighty5cacao 08:06, 25 August 2011 (MST) They're not directly relevant to this article in particular, but I needed somewhere to stash things that had been brewing in my head. --Tepples 10:22, 25 August 2011 (MST) So a new page should be created to handle similarities that are based more on lyrics or music videos than on melody? Eighty5cacao 14:09, 25 August 2011 (MST) Define dubious[edit] Regarding this edit summary, could you list the specific entries you consider dubious (and what specifically is wrong with each) so that I can drag any of mine back to the dump? Eighty5cacao 11:09, 16 October 2011 (MST) I'll have to go through them again, but there were a few cases here and on (vg) where I couldn't even find what parts of the songs you were talking about. --Tepples 11:47, 16 October 2011 (MST) In that case, please allow a little over 48 hours from now for me to provide more detailed explanations and do some cleanup myself. During this time, please don't remove any entries without talking to me first. (I can't guarantee a shorter time to resolve such issues because I will be somewhat busy with schoolwork.) Some of my entries here (not on -vg) were based purely on Wikipedia information, and I did not make a sufficient attempt to evaluate the similarity for myself because I did not legally own a recording of one or more songs and/or could not find the song(s) on YT. If this is a reason for any particular complaint, please specify.Eighty5cacao 12:12, 16 October 2011 (MST) (last edit 12:31, 16 October 2011 (MST)) I don't own a copy of a lot of these myself either; I just have relatives who listen to oldies radio. I wasn't planning on removing anything so quickly, just making demos of the ones I do own (or can buy easily on Amazon). --Tepples 14:34, 16 October 2011 (MST) What is AL0[edit] No article with that exact title seems to exist on the English Wikipedia. Does the abbreviation refer to one of "Weird Al" Yankovic's albums, or something else entirely? Eighty5cacao 15:16, 19 October 2011 (MST) Nothing to do with Weird Al, just the titles of some mixtapes I made when I was in college. AL0: Bigg Mixx was released partially on Bemanistyle (or DDREI? I forget which, it was so long ago); the others (AL1: Power Strangers and AL2: unsAOLved) have never been released. --Tepples 16:03, 19 October 2011 (MST) I guess the lack of notability would explain why I had trouble searching for it. Thanks. Eighty5cacao 16:11, 19 October 2011 (MST) Notepad++[edit] Regarding this edit, why didn't you just do a find-and-replace in your browser? Did you have Notepad++ configured as an external editor? If so, why? (I'm just curious; I'm not trying to play tech support.) Eighty5cacao 19:55, 30 October 2011 (MST) I cnp'd the article into N++ because I only know how to do find, not replace, within the text editor of Firefox. --Tepples 06:13, 31 October 2011 (MST) Oh, whoops, that was stupid. I forgot that most browsers don't offer find and replace as built-in functionality. So I take it the answer is "no" as to my question about the external editor setting? Eighty5cacao 10:45, 31 October 2011 (MST) MoS issue: Spaces after table delimiters[edit] What is your justification for putting spaces after all the | delimiters? I would personally be inclined to do exactly the opposite (i.e., remove all the spaces). Sorry if there is some Wikipedia MoS page I failed to read. Eighty5cacao 13:10, 14 May 2012 (MST) It was an excuse for a null edit to clarify my previous mistake (for which thank you for boldly correcting) for the record. I haven't seen any such MoS page either on whether or not to include a leading space in table cells. Wikipedia's help and project pages do it both ways: wikipedia:Help:Wikitable with spaces and wikipedia:Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Tables without. The guiding principle is consistency, as alluded to in "Example with no space" on trope:TropeNameInJokes. --Tepples 13:18, 14 May 2012 (MST) Yummy Yummy Yummy and Just What I Needed[edit] Listen to the first few seconds of BOTH "Yummy Yummy Yummy" by Ohio Express and "Just What I Needed" by the Cars! --unsigned (72.51.233.88) newbie[edit] How about I do that --unsigned (91.207.8.246) I have no idea what you mean by this. How about who does what? --Tepples 05:38, 4 September 2012 (MST) Sweet and Tasty Rock and Roll[edit] "Cherry Pie" by Warrant sounds like "Pour some sugar on me" by Def Leppard and Joan Jett's "I love rock and roll". This is similarity is mentioned on Cherry Pie's wikipedia page. --unsigned (99.250.117.117) Powerhouse B[edit] Wikipedia:Powerhouse (instrumental) states that the two parts of "Powerhouse" are traditionally called "Powerhouse A" (the "chase" music) and "Powerhouse B" (the "assembly line" music). But I guess I don't really need the "B" with the Notes column. --Tepples 18:05, 25 November 2012 (MST) Yeah, I apologize for not reading the Wikipedia article. I probably wouldn't have been so bold had the Notes field not started with the word "Bass." Anyway, I decided to move the "B" inside the link. --Eighty5cacao 20:38, 25 November 2012 (MST) A Few More[edit] James - Laid &amp; Ritchie Valens - La Bamba Franz Ferdinand - Take Me Out &amp; Led Zeppelin - Trampled Underfoot Arctic Monkeys - Fluorescent Adolescent &amp; Barenaked Ladies - Testing 1,2,3 --173.35.233.129 14:05, 7 January 2013 (CST) Smash Mouth- Then the Morning comes VS The Animals- It's My Life (unsigned post by 67.213.218.72) Here are some songs[edit] Sly and the Family Stone's Thank You (Falettinme Be Mice Elf Agin) sounds like Wild Cherry's Play That Funky Music. --ksd5, 15 January 2013. Another Suggestion - Staying Alive in the Wall[edit] Stayin' Alive In The Wall (Pink Floyd vs Bee Gees Mashup) by Wax Audio Video by Wax Audio, A Mashup of Staying Alive by Beegees and The Wall by Pink Floyd Please add this along with the others, You'll thank me later! --Hamtaro126 (talk) 10:38, 4 April 2013 (UTC) Suggestions from Ulfalizer[edit] Ulfalizer from #nesdev also submitted http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGuFn0RPgaE#t=6s vs. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nl9WMIPzd6w#t=55 but I lack the time to verify. --Tepples (talk) 22:16, 19 April 2013 (UTC) Popular online clothing retailer,Presents style forward clothing,Trends released clothes goods for sale[edit] January 9, 2014, Miss International Brand Contest 2014 (Globe) Finals held in eye-catching style capital of Shenzhen. 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